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    Cameron of Locheil - some help needed

    At the prompting of a pal I'm working on a short article on the Cameron of Lochiel tartan which is one of those generally thought to be a Jacobite era sett but...........

    At the moment I'm trying to get to get things in order and wonder if any of the rabble can confirm (fact not fiction please) the origins of a couple of portraits. There are three portraits of the Gentle Lochiel each of which has been claimed to be by Sir George Chalmers and whilst they show similarities all are unique and there can only be one .

    So, who can help with these two?

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    I have been unable to find a colour version of this and wonder if in fact it was an engraved print? It is not the portrait owned by Lochiel at Achnacarry but is clearly based on it. Anyone know the source?

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    There is something naive about this painting which I suspect is C19th, probably Victorian. Anyone know the source and where it is now?
    Last edited by figheadair; 7th April 14 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Spelling :-(

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    Hello Peter, why not ask Lochiel? If anyone might know, then perhaps he might.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Mr. MacDonald,

    The first portrait (Oil on Canvas, which hangs in the Dining Room at Achnacarry), there is a wee colour image of the original included on www.cindyvallar.com
    The source of the image is one Cindy Vallar, author of The Scottish Thistle, as well a literary critic.
    Click the Scotland's Thisle 2 link in the menu banner at the top. The image is half way down. I cannot vouch for her credibility. She is just a link in your chain.

    I'm still working the second. I am familiar with the Alexander MacDonald portrait, which the National Portrait Museum credits Sir George Chalmers - The Lord of the Isles sett featuring Co. Antrim in the background. However, I've not got enough time at this moment to dig into his other work.

    I'll do what I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domehead View Post

    The first portrait (Oil on Canvas, which hangs in the Dining Room at Achnacarry)
    I beg to differ. This is the one at Achnacarry.

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    The first one I posted is clearly a copy but some of the detail, including the tartan, differs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Hello Peter, why not ask Lochiel? If anyone might know, then perhaps he might.
    We've already corresponded Jock and no, he doesn't know but believes like me that these two are copies of the one he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    We've already corresponded Jock and no, he doesn't know but believes like me that these two are copies of the one he has.
    Ah right, in that case I have no other suggestions Peter. Good luck with the search.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Mr. MacDonald,

    Yes, I know the B&W image you posted, and the Achnacarry Oil on Canavas on which it is based, are different in many detailed respects.
    Incidentally, yours is the same as the image included by Cindy Vallar.

    The way I interpreted your note, I thought you were seeking a colour version, as in any, of that sitting.

    Sorry for any confusion.
    Domehead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domehead View Post
    The way I interpreted your note, I thought you were seeking a colour version, as in any, of that sitting.

    Sorry for any confusion.
    Domehead
    No, no, you are correct, I am searching for a colour version but having trouble finding my way around the Cindy Vallar site.

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