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Arrested or questioned for wearing sgians
I wear my kilt as a replacement for breaks, so i just pop it on if im going out for what ever reason . I don’t wear it for occasions or anything special. I don’t dress up in all the gear even thou when buying my kilts i often get the jackets and so on with the kilt. I only have 1 sgian that i got with a kilt its a fake one just a piece of plastic really. But as i don’t dress up i never use it and its fake so don’t see the point in putting it in my socks.
However i have just purchased a Proper Sgian from a forum member its an antler looking one and more my kind of thing then the formal black looking ones .
So now you know how and when i use my kilt i was wondering if while out and about bearing in mined its a knife and if the Rozzers se it they can and most likely would arrest you have any of yopu ever been stopped or even arrested for carrying a knife that is after all illegal to have on your person.
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 Originally Posted by Norbo
I wear my kilt as a replacement for breaks, so i just pop it on if im going out for what ever reason . I don’t wear it for occasions or anything special. I don’t dress up in all the gear even thou when buying my kilts i often get the jackets and so on with the kilt. I only have 1 sgian that i got with a kilt its a fake one just a piece of plastic really. But as i don’t dress up i never use it and its fake so don’t see the point in putting it in my socks.
However i have just purchased a Proper Sgian from a forum member its an antler looking one and more my kind of thing then the formal black looking ones .
So now you know how and when i use my kilt i was wondering if while out and about bearing in mined its a knife and if the Rozzers se it they can and most likely would arrest you have any of yopu ever been stopped or even arrested for carrying a knife that is after all illegal to have on your person.
Norbo, use the search function, mate. This has been discussed countless times on here. I seem to remember Alex (he was a solicitor, I believe) even posted the relevent laws. The information is here on this site already.
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I was reported to a couple of patrolling police officers by a "member of the public". I was waiting while my wife was having her hair done so I was walking around doing a bit of shopping. The officers, a pair of very polite young women, said that they were told by a member of the public that I was carrying a knife. I said "yes, right here" pointing to my sock. I quoted Criminal Justice Act 1988. They called hack to their bosses to confirm the information and that was it. They apologized for taking up my time to which I said it wasn't a problem as I was just killing time anyway. The whole thing was really quite pleasant. It may well have gone differently with different officers or a poor attitude on my part. That is the only time I have had any issue. I have spoken to the police (greetings, etc) with no issues and I always carry the sgian dubh.
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I'm a bit dumbfounded by the whole "carrying a knife" thing. I mean, doesn't every guy carry a knife? Literally every man I know (and many women) carries a pocket knife. My grandfather gave me my first knife when I was 12 years old I've carried one daily ever since. My current knife is a 4" Benchmade and I use it several times a day for all sorts of tasks. It's a tool. Geeze, it's not like you're walking around town with an RPG on your shoulder. it's a little knife. People actually make an issue of it?
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LOl you don't live in the Uk and things over hear are very different. a few years back a friend of mine was pealing an apple with a knife in a park for his child who does not like the peal on. Some one called the police to say there was a bloke in the park with a knife they came and arrested him and took me to the police station for having an offensive weapon. he had to take his 2 year old with him and leave his car in the car park and they hand cuffed him and put him in a police car and social services came to take his child. He was let go within an hour but they kept his pealing knife and make no mistake this was not a proper knife just a pealing knife for like doing apples and potato's.
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 Originally Posted by Norbo
LOl you don't live in the Uk and things over hear are very different. a few years back a friend of mine was pealing an apple with a knife in a park for his child who does not like the peal on. Some one called the police to say there was a bloke in the park with a knife they came and arrested him and took me to the police station for having an offensive weapon. he had to take his 2 year old with him and leave his car in the car park and they hand cuffed him and put him in a police car and social services came to take his child. He was let go within an hour but they kept his pealing knife and make no mistake this was not a proper knife just a pealing knife for like doing apples and potato's.
Can anyone say, "big waste of police time"?
KC
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Discretion is the better part of valor.....some years ago I was leaving the Flagstaff Highland Games in full kilt turnout. Driving across the Navajo reservation I was pulled over by Navajo PD in one of their speed traps (serious - a real speed trap). If you've ever watched the old series Navajo Cops you know they work alone in remote areas - far from back up - so they approach every situation with extreme caution. The Navajo officer was obviously an experienced veteran. He was polite but firm and there was no question he was protecting himself when he stood behind his patrol car door and had me get out of the car as opposed to walking up to my car door. As I was getting out of my car I realized I had my sgian dubh in my kilt hose. Since he was doing all the talking I decided it was best to stand at an angle that concealed the sgian dubh from him. It never became an issue since I had little chance to do anything other than answer his questions and sign off on the ticket (he did relax and come out from behind his car door). As we finished he looked me up and down and asked me why I was dressed like that. I told him I'd just come from the highland games in Flagstaff. He looked at me very seriously and asked, "Who won?" I dared not laugh and managed to stifle the urge to crack up and just told him, "Its like a Scottish Pow-wow." He got it and I got back in the car and drove off. The entire encounter occurred without him seeing, or being aware, I had the sgian dubh in my kilt hose. I can only speculate how he would have handled it if he would have seen it and realized what it was - or if I'd decided to tell him.
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 Originally Posted by 416 Rigby
I'm a bit dumbfounded by the whole "carrying a knife" thing. I mean, doesn't every guy carry a knife? Literally every man I know (and many women) carries a pocket knife. My grandfather gave me my first knife when I was 12 years old I've carried one daily ever since. My current knife is a 4" Benchmade and I use it several times a day for all sorts of tasks. It's a tool. Geeze, it's not like you're walking around town with an RPG on your shoulder. it's a little knife. People actually make an issue of it?
The OP lives in the UK and the laws and attitudes are very different here with regards to knives or weapons of any sort. Knife-carrying is basically illegal (with a few exceptions). If you are carrying a knife in the UK you are most likely to be a criminal or a thug.
Here is a link to a summary of English knife law:-
https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can...-carry-a-knife
...and Scottish knife law:-
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publicati.../07/05130225/4
Knives do have a place as tools, and the law allows for this, you can carry a folding knife with a blade less than 3.5" as long as you can justify carrying it. The concept of carrying a tool around 'just in case' is a strange one to us. We don't regularly carry screwdrivers or spanners (wrenches) or socket sets around 'just in case', so why carry a knife?
So... we do make an issue of it, and if you are still puzzled as to why, here's a link that might help.
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/Re...3/SB_11-23.pdf
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Here in New Zealand context is everything. If I'm off pig hunting I can walk into a petrol station with a bolo knife on my hip and no one will care. If I put a sgian in my pocket to go clubbing and I was frisked by the cops I'd probably get busted. Country cops are less likely to push the issue cos lots of farming folk habitually carry a knife for work, I did for years. City cops are going to require you to show a "lawful purpose" for carrying one.
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7th June 14, 07:51 PM
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 Originally Posted by Machaggisnz
Here in New Zealand context is everything. If I'm off pig hunting I can walk into a petrol station with a bolo knife on my hip and no one will care. If I put a sgian in my pocket to go clubbing and I was frisked by the cops I'd probably get busted. Country cops are less likely to push the issue cos lots of farming folk habitually carry a knife for work, I did for years. City cops are going to require you to show a "lawful purpose" for carrying one.
This reminds me of the first "Men In Black" movie. When Will Smith was trying out for the MOB, he and the other military and police candidates were shooting all the gnarly alien creatures. Will Smith just shoots the little 8 year old Tiffany carrying a "quantum physics" and "theory of relativity" textbook. He said, "A little white girl, walkin in the ghetto at night with all these monsters is up to something." I'm sure a father peeling an apple in the park with his 2 year old son sitting next to him is "real menacing". I'm sick and tired of people calling the cops over stupid stuff! Yeah. There are criminals and thugs out there that need to be locked up, but when did we lose common sense??? Next thing you know, pepper spray will be outlawed. Heck why not shoe laces?! Make everyone wear those stupid toe shoes that just strap on. That way no one will get straggled to death.
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