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26th August 14, 12:45 PM
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Would love to have this reproduced......
All,
Found this ensemble online the other day, it said it was circa. 1835....if you've seen my pics you know I wear my kilt ultra modern in style. Having said that I am a student of history and appreciate the clothing from times past especially if it can be replicated.
So, do the members think it could be reproduced accurately and who would they recommend to do said reproduction?
Johnnie.
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26th August 14, 01:34 PM
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Bonnie Heather Greene could probably do it but I'm not sure if she's made shirts etc... as far as the non-tartan elements the registered hobbyists could certainly do nearly all of it.
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26th August 14, 01:48 PM
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I don't want to extinguish your bonfire, but if you can find a historical equivalent then I would be well impressed. It's like nothing I've ever seen before.
That said it depends on your own personal taste, if you want too go for it, if you meet anyone else in a similar outfit I will happily donate to a charity of your choice. I admire your bravery.
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Simon
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26th August 14, 02:43 PM
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http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/3091/print
Grizzly,
The above link will take you to where I found the set....I'll be the first to admit that believing something is legitimate just because someone else says it is is the wrong way to do things. But after reading the article and looking at the other points of interest included in it I felt reasonably confident that the set is legitimate.
I've included another pic from the page as well....this one presumed to have been made for a gent when the King visited in 1822!
Johnnie.
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26th August 14, 02:46 PM
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And yes, if I like something I've no problem wearing it....so, if it can be made I will! ;)
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26th August 14, 02:51 PM
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Theyoungkiltman,
Thank you for the lead, I'll look her up and go from there!
Johnnie.
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26th August 14, 02:55 PM
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 Originally Posted by Johnnieboots
And yes, if I like something I've no problem wearing it....so, if it can be made I will! ;)
Good for you, I have absolutely no problem with that, I tend toward the more flamboyant style myself regardless of more conservative views. I agree 100% with your view that if I like it! I will wear it. Get it done and post the pics I will be amongst the first to like it. Well done you.
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Simon
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1st September 14, 10:59 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Johnnieboots
All,
Found this ensemble online the other day, it said it was circa. 1835....if you've seen my pics you know I wear my kilt ultra modern in style. Having said that I am a student of history and appreciate the clothing from times past especially if it can be replicated.
So, do the members think it could be reproduced accurately and who would they recommend to do said reproduction?
Johnnie.
I would suggest Robert Amyot's wife, Lady Chrystel. She does this type of work.
Robert's screen name here on the forum, is Ancienne Alliance.
Lady Chrystel's website: http://www.lady-chrystel-kilts.com/home2.html
Robert is wearing a sample of Lady Chrystel's work in this photo.
Robert, Chrystel & girls 2011 Christmas.jpg
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2nd September 14, 03:31 PM
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http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...details-60493/
This thread shows Hothir Ethelnor's similar jacket, which he made from scratch. Bear in mind, your mannequin is wearing some kind of plaid in addition to the tartan doublet.
I have spent a fair amount of time thinking about tartan doublets and jackets. The simplest path is to start with a tartan sport jacket. It will not be cut on the bias, but if you wear the Black Watch or Royal Stewart it is an inexpensive head start. Pendleton makes sportcoats in various tartans. You may also find a tartan dinner jacket that might serve as a starting point.
While they may not be historical, you might consider a lightweight silk doublet made up in tartan, especially for a very dressy occasion. A shirt-weight Montrose doublet needs little in the way of structure, because of the way it is usually worn- with all of the buttons buttoned. Doing it up in silk would make it much cooler and more comfortable, not to mention MUCH more eye catching than even velvet. Several tartans are regularly available in dupioni silk from India for about $25 a yard, and you can always have a few yards run up by at least one Scottish mill. The quality is higher and so is the price.
I have seen a Black Watch morning coat, maybe a tailcoat, which would be an easy conversion, but again, it is not cut on the bias and I think the starting price for the garment is about $400.
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3rd September 14, 09:24 AM
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The outfit in in the OP is in the STA Collection. It could be copied but not recreated exactly as the Wilsons' cloth is harder than anything now made, not to mention that it's hand woven and naturally dyed. Matchng the style is far less problematic. The outfit comprises coat, kilt and plaid.
 Originally Posted by Ron Abbott
I don't know whether they are still on display or not but there used to be a couple of superb full tartan outfits (maybe circa mid 18th century to early 19th century) on display at the National Museum of Scotland. I seem to recall them being trews/tartan riding breeches based.
At one time there were some beautiful outfits and accoutrements on display at the Museum of Antiquities as well.
Because of space (and the fact that tartan and Highland Dress is not considered worthy of specific study and interpretation) there are only two outfits now on display at the National Museum; the Hynd-Cotton Suit (1744) and an Archer's Coat (c1720). The Musuem of Antiquaries is now an Art Gallery and the majority of that collection is in store.
The vast majority of Highland Revival clothing, of which the 1835 suit is a good example, is in private collections and many are not open to the public.
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