So it's cold out

[freep]

It's well established that in the early days of kilting, long shirts were worn under that served as underwear. Probably.
If you think about it, those shirts would help keep you a bit warmer in the sunny mild Highland climate.

Fast forward.

Saw a bit somewhere about a guy that sews a foot or two to the bottom of his t-shirt for cold weather wear. Seems legit.

Meanwhile . . .

I've worn nightshirts rather than pajamas most of my life. If you think about it, it's the sleepwear equivalent of a kilt.
Wittmann Textiles makes a t-shirt nightshirt, 45" long, available with either a V or crew neck, short or long sleeve. It's a little long for me, but I usually blouse my shirts at the waist a little anyway so I'm gonna try that. If that doesn't work, it's much easier to cut off a bit than to add it.
I'm going to give it a shot and see does this work.

http://www.wittmanntextiles.com/nightshirts.html

[neloon]

It's well established that in the early days of kilting, long shirts were worn under that served as underwear. P

On no evidence whatever. But some will believe what they want to believe.
Alan

[The Q]

The above comments made me decide to find out what I could find about what was worn under saxon clothing.
It took much wading around the net to find sensible answers.
and basically from what I could find out up till the 1850s ish the majority of men ( not the rich) wore long shirts with the tail being long enough to pull through the legs and part way up the front. Separate underwear not being affordable by the majority.
This idea came in when the majority were switching from some version of the leine to trousers. This would tie in with the leine gradually becoming a long tailed shirt / underwear before becoming lost to short tailed shirts.

There is of course, evidence of some sort of underwear going back thousands of years, but this seems to go in and out of fashion and most remains are from the rich of whatever period.

[freep]

On no evidence whatever. But some will believe what they want to believe.
Alan

Through a bit of research I'm given to understand the progression was leine with bratt to leine with matchcoat to leine with great kilt. Those who have had occasion to research 17-18c shirts nearly universally describe originals as being about 35" neck to tail virtually everywhere in Europe and the British Isles.

But I could be wrong, as could my sources and as well you know, "some will believe what they want to believe."

But whether a long shirt under a kilt is historically authentic is neither here nor there.
Here's the main points:

It gets friggin' cold in Colorado in the winter.
A bit more insulation would not be amiss.
A very long t-shirt might help retain heat.
Wittmann Textiles makes 45" long t-shirt style nightshirts.
I'm going to try it and see if I'm any warmer.

I'll let you know how it works out.

Cheers!

[jthk]

I'm very interested to hear of your findings! Good luck!

Regards,
Jonathan

Through a bit of research I'm given to understand the progression was leine with bratt to leine with matchcoat to leine with great kilt. Those who have had occasion to research 17-18c shirts nearly universally describe originals as being about 35" neck to tail virtually everywhere in Europe and the British Isles.

But I could be wrong, as could my sources and as well you know, "some will believe what they want to believe."

But whether a long shirt under a kilt is historically authentic is neither here nor there.
Here's the main points:

It gets friggin' cold in Colorado in the winter.
A bit more insulation would not be amiss.
A very long t-shirt might help retain heat.
Wittmann Textiles makes 45" long t-shirt style nightshirts.
I'm going to try it and see if I'm any warmer.

I'll let you know how it works out.

Cheers!

[freep]

I tried the t-shirt style nightshirt under my kilt and it really didn't do much. Two pairs of Duluth cotton boxer briefs were better, though as I've worn the kilt more, I'm just as comfortable with one pair. I've found that Duluth offers extra long boxer briefs and I've a couple pairs of those on order. I'm not a big fan of long-johns and have worn long socks in lieu for many years (my oft mentioned Cabela's knee to toe wader socks the current favorite), with those in combination with the longer boxer briefs all my problems may be solved both kilted and not.

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...cessor=content