"Full Blooded"

[freep]

In a discussion of Native Americans today I came across the term “full blooded.” It made we wonder, is anyone today “full blooded” anything?

Consider this: In Scotland there are many considered full blooded Scots. But are they? William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, Bonnie Prince Charlie and the rest of the Stewarts, all these people are of note in Scottish history but are they full blooded Scots?

No. Wallace and Bruce were of Norman origins. The Stewarts were originally from Brittany. The Scots themselves are descended from Irish that invaded Caledonia around the 4th century. In time they intermingled with the earlier Britons that were there first. A bit later, in the north and west, Norse invaders mixed with the Scot and Pictish residents.

So, in a nation so fiercely proud of its heritage, by strict definition there are very few “full blooded” Scots. Unless or course, a people can absorb and assimilate an influx of alien blood and make the resulting combination a new and perhaps revitalized “full blood.”

Using this Scottish experience as a guide, perhaps then we're justified in celebrating our Scottish (and Pictish and Norman and Saxon and Norse and Briton and . . . ) blood in an American way.

[Andrews Son]

I did read a while back that men with gaelic surnames in the west of ireland have a percentage around 98-99% of their branch of r1b. Which is very high. Ill will try to find where I seen it but it was picked up in a few newspapers, but I have to go out now. I believe the basque population has a high amount of non assimilation too

[Mike S]

While "Wallace" is a corrupted Norman-French word, it references those of Welsh origins. Thus, William Wallace was more likely from a Welsh lineage originally, and they settled northward in southern Scotland as many did.

[Profane James]

So....
Are we nothing? Or are we all?

[Andrews Son]

The cameroonians are from an ancient line of r1b where we separated and went west and some east to India they went back on themselves and stayed in Africa.

[OC Richard]

Are we nothing? Or are we all?

We are all "us", and have always been so, I believe.

[kiltedsniper]

We are all "us", and have always been so, I believe.

Very nice quote.
I know my great great grandmother on my dads side of the family was from Scotland and her mother as well, but x3 grandmother was married around 9 different times before coming to the U.S. And on my mothers side of the family we can trace the family tree back to the early 1600s of Germany. So, to quote from Bill Murray in Stripes...we're mutts!!

[jthk]

... and at the end of the day, does it matter? Scientifically there is only one race: the human race. There were approx. 500 distinct nations in the Americas at the time of European colonization, with many cultures and languages and outlooks on life. I can only speak to the Mohawk and other Iroquois nations but I know that, for them, membership in their "tribe" really doesn't require blood quantum but is more community focused. For example, a woman without any known native background learnt Mohawk, moved to one of their towns, and teaches it at a local school. She was adopted by the community and is now considered Mohawk. Her children will also be Mohawk.

I find blood quantum interesting only on a scientific level. What's my blood quantum? Out of curiosity, I may find out but I really don't care because it doesn't matter to me.

Best,
Jonathan

[freep]

So....
Are we nothing? Or are we all?

All are one?

[freep]

I did read a while back that men with gaelic surnames in the west of ireland have a percentage around 98-99% of their branch of r1b. Which is very high. Ill will try to find where I seen it but it was picked up in a few newspapers, but I have to go out now. I believe the basque population has a high amount of non assimilation too

No doubt correct but then there's this:



Quite a bit of geograhpical separation between say Sligo and Camaroon.