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31st July 18, 09:18 AM
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Wearing the Montrose Doublet
I generally don't have much interest in formalwear with the kilt, since I never have any occasion to wear it. But I might have an opportunity to buy an older (1980s) green velvet Montrose at a very attractive price (less than 25% of what one would cost new) which would fit me perfectly. Just out of curiosity, what are the proper traditional options for wearing this? Specifically, is it only meant to be worn with a jabot and lace at the cuffs? I've looked on the net for images of people wearing it, and some people seem to just wear it over a white collared shirt with no neck adornment or lace, but I don't know if this is "correct" to do. Is a bowtie appropriate with it or not?
What levels of formality are appropriate for wearing a Montrose? And what should be worn with it to remain firmly in the traditional camp? It seems obvious that it's meant to be worn with a belt and waistplate, but what else that's specific to the jacket?
For reference, this is what I'm talking about:
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31st July 18, 09:25 AM
#2
At such a price, if it fits, quick: grab it! The lace cuffs are not de rigeur but the jabot is the norm for such a beautiful doublet.
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31st July 18, 09:36 AM
#3
Lace cuffs with Jabot collar.
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31st July 18, 09:54 AM
#4
Generally I'd agree that it's a jabot for the Montrose although I have seen it with a white tie (see link and scroll through pic's)
If you look through the galleries for the Royal Caledonian Ball you notice the vast majority wearing jabot and many with cuffs. I had a Sheriffmuir that I did wear with a silk Edwardian style cravat or a riding stock. While the jabot does look good on many, it makes me look like I'm an eye patch and a parrot away from a pirate outfit.....
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31st July 18, 10:07 AM
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I chose the Sheriffmuir style instead of the Prince Charles Jacket, and I do wear a bowtie and works just fine, and is acceptable (well on this side of the pond), and I am sure you could wear a bow tie too. but I normally wear with tartan or mostly black bow. I do love the Montrose Doublet, I am sure that would look really nice with a fly.
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Allan Collin MacDonald III
Grandfather - Clan Donald, MacDonald (Clanranald) /MacBride, Antigonish, NS, 1791
Grandmother - Clan Chisholm of Strathglass, West River, Antigonish, 1803
Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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31st July 18, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MacCathmhaoil
While the jabot does look good on many, it makes me look like I'm an eye patch and a parrot away from a pirate outfit.....
Ha! Well, to be honest, I have the same concern. The only place I could see myself wearing it would be a Burns supper, and possibly only if I were the one presenting the haggis. I don't think that will ever happen.
Outside of that context, a lace jabot and cuffs with a Montrose would seem very over-the-top, both in terms of formality and bordering on historical costumery for anything I would attend. This is precisely why I am asking the question. If I cannot find a use for it, or a way to wear it that fits the events I would attend, then I will have to pass on it, no matter how good the deal is.
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31st July 18, 11:10 AM
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I always think it is better to be over dressed than under dressed.
As said above, a jabot with a Motrose Doublet but cuffs are optional.
One thing to note is that a velvet doublet is very hot, best to just wear a tee shirt underneath. You can alway pin the cuffs on to the inside of the sleeves.
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