Full wrap utility kilt

[Steelkilt]

Good evening gents,

I’m looking for a step up from my Utkilts in terms of materials used and build quality. My main concern is the underapron, and how much coverage it provides. I’m looking mainly at Stumptown and Utilikilt products, but am open to suggestion. My “wish list” (in addition to the full wrap) would be:
- deep pleats
- sturdy material (duck cloth- prone to wrinkling and holding odd shapes?)
- Heavy enough material not to be blown all over by the wind (kiltlifter is fine for the name of a beer, less fine when in public

Thanks in advance!

[Steve Ashton]

I guess I am just a bit confused what you are asking.

The title says "Full wrap utility kilt" and yet you give two kilts as examples that are not full wrap. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean.

Then you say you are looking for a step up from one brand and yet give that same brand as an example of what you are looking for.

Then you say you want deep pleats. Pleat depth is a function of the amount of fabric and the size of hips that fabric must go around.
Then you say you want sturdy material but say duck canvas because I can only assume that it wrinkles and you seem to want it to hold odd shapes.

I hope you can see where the confusion lies.

Perhaps you may wish to edit the wording of your post to make your wishes a little clearer and more easily understood.

[Tobus]

If you're looking for a kilt with more of a complete under-apron, deeper pleats, and resistance against wind blowing the pleats, I would probably not recommend a Utilikilt. The narrow inner apron is one of my biggest complaints about my Utilikilt (Workman model in my case; it may be different with others). The inner apron is only long enough to reach where the V-pattern of snaps connects it to the outer apron, which lies on the front of my left leg. When I walk or sit, the edge of the inner apron drifts to the inside of my leg. It's a bit annoying. The pleats are not deep at all by kilt standards, and the duck-cloth material just doesn't have any swish or movement to it. They stitch all the folds in the pleats, and that makes it even stiffer against swishing. But it is very durable, and the stitching keeps the pleats well-defined without ever having to worry about needing to press the pleats back into shape. I haven't found wrinkling to be a major issue, either.

[Steelkilt]

Thank you, I’ll avoid the Workman and it’s narrow underapron! Good to know it doesn’t wrinkle too badly though!

If you're looking for a kilt with more of a complete under-apron, deeper pleats, and resistance against wind blowing the pleats, I would probably not recommend a Utilikilt. The narrow inner apron is one of my biggest complaints about my Utilikilt (Workman model in my case; it may be different with others). The inner apron is only long enough to reach where the V-pattern of snaps connects it to the outer apron, which lies on the front of my left leg. When I walk or sit, the edge of the inner apron drifts to the inside of my leg. It's a bit annoying. The pleats are not deep at all by kilt standards, and the duck-cloth material just doesn't have any swish or movement to it. They stitch all the folds in the pleats, and that makes it even stiffer against swishing. But it is very durable, and the stitching keeps the pleats well-defined without ever having to worry about needing to press the pleats back into shape. I haven't found wrinkling to be a major issue, either.

[Taskr]

Sounds like a Freedom PV or USAK PV kilt to me

[Steelkilt]

Thank you for the feedback so far! Am I correct to assume that my list is not a reality among utility kilts?

[jthk]

I have found that all of my pre-Switchback Utilikilts have the same issue: the left edge of the inner apron brushes against my inner left leg when walking. Terribly annoying. I have the new Switchback Survival Utilikilt and it's different but I wouldn't say any less annoying. That said, I love the Utilikilts that I have and have a variety of uses for them all.

The cotton duck of the Workman does wrinkle easily and I find it often keeps the wrinkles unless I give specific attention to them. The cotton twill of the other Utilikilts doesn't wrinkle as easily and what wrinkles do appear are often easily flattened out.

If you're looking for a kilt with more of a complete under-apron, deeper pleats, and resistance against wind blowing the pleats, I would probably not recommend a Utilikilt. The narrow inner apron is one of my biggest complaints about my Utilikilt (Workman model in my case; it may be different with others). The inner apron is only long enough to reach where the V-pattern of snaps connects it to the outer apron, which lies on the front of my left leg. When I walk or sit, the edge of the inner apron drifts to the inside of my leg. It's a bit annoying. The pleats are not deep at all by kilt standards, and the duck-cloth material just doesn't have any swish or movement to it. They stitch all the folds in the pleats, and that makes it even stiffer against swishing. But it is very durable, and the stitching keeps the pleats well-defined without ever having to worry about needing to press the pleats back into shape. I haven't found wrinkling to be a major issue, either.

[Steelkilt]

I’ll try to clarify my questions by replying in red

I guess I am just a bit confused what you are asking.

The title says "Full wrap utility kilt" and yet you give two kilts as examples that are not full wrap. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean.
Thank you for asking for clarity, it was a late post! I’m unfamiliar with the Stumptown and Utilikilt products, and I’d like to know if either brand provides a full wrap underkilt.
Then you say you are looking for a step up from one brand and yet give that same brand as an example of what you are looking for.
I’m familiar with only the Utkilts products, but I’m asking if any other maker uses better materials and construction practices to produce a superior product.

Then you say you want deep pleats. Pleat depth is a function of the amount of fabric and the size of hips that fabric must go around.
Then you say you want sturdy material but say duck canvas because I can only assume that it wrinkles and you seem to want it to hold odd shapes.
Pleat depth: Any maker that has deep pleats in utility kilts? I understand that there may be some variation in experience, but makers who are known to use enough fabric to produce deep pleats? My query into duck fabric is based on my concern (not desire for) that the fabric may be so stiff as to balloon and wrinkle terribly. Is this a common reality?

Thank you for helping me clarify!

I hope you can see where the confusion lies
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