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15th April 19, 11:11 AM
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Deep pleats
I am making a weathered MacKenzie kilt and the sett is 12” so to pleat to the sett they will be 6” deep which I’ve never done before, it seems like a lot. I calculated about 17 pleats and I’d still end up with almost 6 yards in the back, don’t know what sort of swing you’d get with pleats like that. I could pleat to the white stripes which would make the pleats only 3” deep which is more manageable and I’ve done that before. Any advice on how to approach this would be greatly appreciated.
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15th April 19, 11:13 AM
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Picture didn’t show in first post, here it is
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15th April 19, 11:33 AM
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I am sure Barb T or another experienced maker will here shortly.
Usually a 8 yard traditional will have about a yard of fabric dedicated to each apron, over and under. That leaves 6 for the rear pleats. So your total rear fabric sounds ok.
Are you pleating to the stripe (red/white/alternating), a general block of color, or are you attempting to replicate the pattern?
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15th April 19, 02:30 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by KnittedReenactor
Usually a 8 yard traditional will have about a yard of fabric dedicated to each apron, over and under. That leaves 6 for the rear pleats. So your total rear fabric sounds ok.
I have done a couple with 6 yards in the pleats but they had close to 30 pleats so much more shallow, but this would be pleated to the sett so only 17 wide and deep pleats, I don’t know if that would have the same swing as more and shallower pleats.
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15th April 19, 11:34 AM
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have you tried to pleat it to the sett?
tact is the ability to tell someone to go the hell in such a way they look forward to the trip Winston Churchill
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15th April 19, 11:35 AM
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I note your screen name as a re-enactor. If you're doing a period before 1830, my understanding from others on this forum is that most kilts were box-pleated then, something that uses a lot less fabric, normally pleated to the stripe.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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15th April 19, 11:45 AM
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If you are referring to me then I am not the op, just a commenter.
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15th April 19, 11:52 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by KnittedReenactor
If you are referring to me then I am not the op, just a commenter.
Sorry - I need to pay closer attention.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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16th April 19, 07:09 AM
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If it bothers you enough, cheat - put in folds to make as close an approximation to the sett as possible, but making more pleats. The inside might reveal the strategy, with the pleats being different sizes - but it is a commonly used strategy when using a large sett, and not at all obvious.
Some tartans, when pleated to stripe, use alternating stripes for the same reason - one is called ketchup and mustard, as the stripes alternate red and yellow.
Anne the Pleater
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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16th April 19, 07:27 AM
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I have a kilt, that I made, using 16 oz. “MacDonald, Lord of the Isles, Hunting Modern”, tartan, which I pleaded to the white stripe. It has about 6” deep pleats, and I love it. Great “sway”/ “swish”, of the pleats.
Go for it!
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