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12th September 22, 10:32 PM
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The Kilted King
His Majesty King Charles III and Her Majesty The Queen's other children hold a Vigil beside Her Majesty’s coffin in St Giles’ Cathedral yesterday.
A sombre occasion but very good to see His Majesty kilted. It's been 70 years since we had a kilt wearing king.
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12th September 22, 11:35 PM
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This is interesting to see.
He and the other Royal men had been in morning-coat previously, going into uniform as protocol and ceremony demanded.
I wonder what made The Princess Royal opt for trousers with her naval uniform, rather than a skirt.
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13th September 22, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Troglodyte
This is interesting to see.
He and the other Royal men had been in morning-coat previously, going into uniform as protocol and ceremony demanded
The King was in the uniform of a Field Marshal for the earlier walk behind the coffin and serve in St.Giles. He then changed into TCHD when he went to the Scottish Parliament. His decision to retain the kilt for the Vigil would not have been made lightly.
I wonder what made The Princess Royal opt for trousers with her naval uniform, rather than a skirt.
Dress Regs now allow females the option of trousers. Additionally, I'm not sure there is protocol for an Admiral to wear a skirt and sword in No.1 Dress.
Last edited by figheadair; 13th September 22 at 07:14 AM.
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15th September 22, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by figheadair
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Dress Regs now allow females the option of trousers. Additionally, I'm not sure there is protocol for an Admiral to wear a skirt and sword in No.1 Dress.
My father, RN retired, used to have a habit of reminding us youngsters when in his opinion we had done something not quite right. “There is the right way to do things and there is a wrong way of doing things and then, there is the Royal Navy’s way of doing things.” It left us with very little room to manoeuvre on the excuses front!
Interestingly and baring this conversation in mind, I noted that when The Late Queen’s coffin was flown in to Northolt the other evening, the RAF were there to do the honours and two of the female RAF Officers in the Reception Party were wearing skirts and were carrying swords. Perhaps, the RAF have their way of doing things too?
Last edited by Jock Scot; 15th September 22 at 03:15 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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15th September 22, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Interestingly and baring this conversation in mind, I noted that when The Late Queen’s coffin was flown in to Northolt the other evening, the RAF were there to do the honours and two of the female RAF Officers in the Reception Party were wearing skirts and were carrying swords. Perhaps, the RAF have their way of doing things too?
There is a choice across all three Services. I wonder if the length of the walk on both occasions might have been a factor.
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15th September 22, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jock Scot
My father, RN retired, used to have a habit of reminding us youngsters when in his opinion we had done something not quite right. “There is the right way to do things and there is a wrong way of doing things and then, there is the Royal Navy’s way of doing things.” It left us with very little room to manoeuvre on the excuses front!
Interestingly and baring this conversation in mind, I noted that when The Late Queen’s coffin was flown in to Northolt the other evening, the RAF were there to do the honours and two of the female RAF Officers in the Reception Party were wearing skirts and were carrying swords. Perhaps, the RAF have their way of doing things too?
The RAF company of about 200 that greeted Her Majesty on the runway at Northolt had impeccable, absolutely perfect drill. You would expect them to be good but as far as I could see, they were flawless.
Those ancient U Nialls from Donegal were a randy bunch.
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16th September 22, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninehostages
The RAF company of about 200 that greeted Her Majesty on the runway at Northolt had impeccable, absolutely perfect drill. You would expect them to be good but as far as I could see, they were flawless.
I too was very impressed.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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16th September 22, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninehostages
The RAF company of about 200 that greeted Her Majesty on the runway at Northolt had impeccable, absolutely perfect drill. You would expect them to be good but as far as I could see, they were flawless.
They were the Queen's Colour Squadron. I was next door to them at Uxbridge in '82. Drill and ceremonial is their job.
Descendant of Malones from Cork and O’Higgins from Wicklow
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15th September 22, 03:40 AM
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I think that female naval officers do not carry swords as a rule, having seen them at their passing out parades, but there could be separate rules for such unusual occasions as we have seen in the last few days. The RAF is, of course the most junior of the services and as such would not have long standing protocols on such things as swords.
I wondered if the Princes Royal's choice of trousers was made in order to go with more comfortable footwear, or maybe a more waterproof option. The royal family certainly had a long day on their feet,
Anne the Pleater
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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15th September 22, 08:57 AM
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I am interested to know about the uniform of the men posted at the corners.
Tulach Ard
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