Jacket advice for colorblind person

[Silmakhor]

Hi all,

I have a kilt on order after 30+ years without, and I'm considering jacket options. The tartan is leaping salmon:

https://nicolsonkiltmakers.com/produ...house-of-edgar

Question is, would a brown herringbone tweed jacket work with this? I can't think of any reason it would not. But... I am colorblind, so advice is appreciated. A complicating factor is that I do plan on getting more kilts, and versatility will be a factor:

• something like a weathered black watch based tartan,
• A modern red tartan such as Scott, McIntosh, or MacGregor
• Spirit of Scotland Ancient, which is a lovely faded purple with green.
  

The second request is - I'd love recommendations on specific fabrics from MM or Lochcarron. Right now I am going off of the names of the fabrics rather than the screenshots, but that's not a reliable method for a colorblind person unless they have something obvious like "coffee" in the title

I live in Vermont, so the climate is often good for tweed. Thanks!

[kilted2000]

The great thing about kilts and tweed is that everything goes with pretty much everything. Remember matching everything is not required.

[Jock Scot]

You will do what you will do, but if I may respectfully suggest that buying more tartan than you have already will only make your colour choice problems worse. Many of us in Scotland, who can clearly see colours, stick with just one tartan and might possibly have a brace of kilts, one say in modern colours and one say, in ancient colours. We then find the colours of jackets, hose, ties etc., that we think march, ------I repeat, march------ happily together and that is that. For someone in your position I would have thought that that might be helpful. Besides , its less expensive that way!

[JPS]

One thing that I found very helpful is that Marton Mills will let you put together a sample pack. Go through their website, add a few choices to your cart, check out (free of charge), and just about the time you forget you've done that, your samples will arrive. It's easy.

[Silmakhor]

One thing that I found very helpful is that Marton Mills will let you put together a sample pack. Go through their website, add a few choices to your cart, check out (free of charge), and just about the time you forget you've done that, your samples will arrive. It's easy.

Oh, cool! Will do!

[R100PDave]

Not wanting to rain on anyone's parade but, I don't understand the desire to have numerous kilts unless they have a family/clan connection. Having random kilts , just because I can, doesn't seem to have the same meaning as having the actual family connection to said tartans. Just my opinion, no offense intended.

[Silmakhor]

One thing that I found very helpful is that Marton Mills will let you put together a sample pack. Go through their website, add a few choices to your cart, check out (free of charge), and just about the time you forget you've done that, your samples will arrive. It's easy.

It arrived very quickly! thanks for the tip.

[Silmakhor]

You will do what you will do, but if I may respectfully suggest that buying more tartan than you have already will only make your colour choice problems worse. Many of us in Scotland, who can clearly see colours, stick with just one tartan and might possibly have a brace of kilts, one say in modern colours and one say, in ancient colours. We then find the colours of jackets, hose, ties etc., that we think march, ------I repeat, march------ happily together and that is that. For someone in your position I would have thought that that might be helpful. Besides , its less expensive that way!

Hrrrmm.

I do appreciate the advice!

I also want to clear up some misconceptions that some folks may have. Colorblindness is usually quite subtle, and is not at all what people imagine when they first hear the phrase. I am *protanomalous,* which means that I have fewer "red" receptors than most people. I can *still* see red just fine IF it is a primary red and not mixed with blue or green in a blend. So the Lion in the royal standard is quite clearly red to me. It's not a "bright" color though in the way in might be to others. Conversely greens are often brighter. Again, primary greens are easy to see.

The real trick is with pastel and blended and secondary/tertiary colors. Pink often looks gray (because red is faint for me) and lime green is essentially the same for me as yellow. Purples usually look more bluish for me. If I have a real need to know what other people see, I sometimes pull a photograph into a graphics application and get the computer to give me a numerical breakdown of the colors.

Why am I going into this? To clear up any notion that colorblind people don't appreciate tartans in different colors. I see a broad range of shades that make various tartans attractive and interesting in their own right. Otherwise I'd stick to something completely gray

[Father Bill]

Hrrrmm.

I do appreciate the advice!

I also want to clear up some misconceptions that some folks may have. Colorblindness is usually quite subtle, and is not at all what people imagine when they first hear the phrase. I am *protanomalous,* which means that I have fewer "red" receptors than most people. I can *still* see red just fine IF it is a primary red and not mixed with blue or green in a blend. So the Lion in the royal standard is quite clearly red to me. It's not a "bright" color though in the way in might be to others. Conversely greens are often brighter. Again, primary greens are easy to see.

The real trick is with pastel and blended and secondary/tertiary colors. Pink often looks gray (because red is faint for me) and lime green is essentially the same for me as yellow. Purples usually look more bluish for me. If I have a real need to know what other people see, I sometimes pull a photograph into a graphics application and get the computer to give me a numerical breakdown of the colors.

Why am I going into this? To clear up any notion that colorblind people don't appreciate tartans in different colors. I see a broad range of shades that make various tartans attractive and interesting in their own right. Otherwise I'd stick to something completely gray

I think then, that the more useful and descriptive term would be "colour deficient" rather than "colour blind". It is a useful description often used in the fields of visual measurement, education, and medicine. It generally runs on one of two axes - red/green and blue/yellow. Male red/green deficiency is the most common form of colour restriction, followed at some distance, by total male colour blindness.

In my own case (red/green deficient) I find that it is far less confusing to explain myself that way. To enlarge on my experience, older traffic lights in my province are red, yellow, and white to me and I often confuse some shades of blue and purple because the red in the purple is not always obvious to me.

[Silmakhor]

I think then, that the more useful and descriptive term would be "colour deficient" rather than "colour blind". It is a useful description often used in the fields of visual measurement, education, and medicine. It generally runs on one of two axes - red/green and blue/yellow. Male red/green deficiency is the most common form of colour restriction, followed at some distance, by total male colour blindness.

In my own case (red/green deficient) I find that it is far less confusing to explain myself that way. To enlarge on my experience, older traffic lights in my province are red, yellow, and white to me and I often confuse some shades of blue and purple because the red in the purple is not always obvious to me.

Yes, that is a better phrase. Oddly, I have never heard it much even from my eye doctors.