Cameron Tartan

[creagdhubh]

Jock, you went shooting with Lochiel?! His direct lineage has got be one of the most famous (or infamous depending upon your perspective) of all Highland Chief lineages. That's awesome!

Cheers,

[Jock Scot]

Jock, you went shooting with Lochiel?! That's awesome!

Cheers,

Well yes, I was his guest. Lochiel does not shoot these days, but does enjoy being out for the day with his family and friends, he is the perfect host.

[creagdhubh]

Well yes, I was his guest. Lochiel does not shoot these days, but does enjoy being out for the day with his family and friends, he is the perfect host.

Wonderful!

[guardsman]

Same position as yourself, fact is Cameron Clan is the one you want . Very nice in the Ancient, Cameron of Erracht is a handsome tartan and is cheaper to buy and more linked to Armed Forces and Regimental. I have an Erracht tartan kilt , about to buy Cameron Ancient as a pressie for myself, will have to wait thats all, God Bless You . An incredible heritage.

[guardsman]

Do not buy a Lochiel Tartan , Chiefs Family only. Traders will say its ok but its not. Your Grannie would turn in Her grave!

[CameronCat]

Jock Scot: check your PM's please.

Thanks!

[FatherGarrin]

For what it's worth, the Cameron of Erracht tartan seems to be a military rather than a clan tartan. It is also the tartan chosen for the only kilted regiment in US history, the 79th New York, formed during the War Between the States. Some of us who are not Camerons might choose to wear it in reference to that history.

Cheers!

[BoldHighlander]

For what it's worth, the Cameron of Erracht tartan seems to be a military rather than a clan tartan. It is also the tartan chosen for the only kilted regiment in US history, the 79th New York, formed during the War Between the States. Some of us who are not Camerons might choose to wear it in reference to that history.

Cheers!

yep
Original 79th New York kilt & sporran

If you type in "79th New York" in the search engine you'll see that regiment has been well discussed here.

[OC Richard]

Below is an extract from the Cameron website...

1) Basic Clan Cameron: ...this is one from the Vestiarium of Scoticum (sic) in 1834, which was accepted by the then Lochiel. It very much resembles an old red and green square sett in the West Highlands Museum in Fort William, although there are some variations.

2) Cameron of Lochiel: It was first illustrated in 1810 in Wilson's Collection.

3) Cameron of Erracht

In The Setts of the Scottish Tartans, Donald C Stewart states "the Erracht Cameron is the only one recorded by Logan" (1831).

The red "Cameron" with four equal green stripes is one of the group of similarly-arranged tartans created by the English Allen brothers and foisted upon the unsuspecting and gullible Highlanders of their day. These brother had a noticable lack of ingenuity in tartan design, and often ignored traditional ideas of design and proportion and instead favoured rigid mathematical simplicity. Here is another of these four-band tartans:



I would very much like to see the (reputedly) old authentic West Highland tartan which is said to "resemble" the Allen's ungainly Cameron design.

In Setts Stewart states that the Lochiel design first appears in Smith (1850). Is it indeed in one of the Wilson pattern-books? Under what name? (Many of the early Wilson designs were known simply by number, or by fanciful names.)

Were I a Cameron I would not hesitate to wear Erracht, an authentic 18th century tartan, instead of the four-stripe Allen creation.

[macwilkin]

For what it's worth, the Cameron of Erracht tartan seems to be a military rather than a clan tartan. It is also the tartan chosen for the only kilted regiment in US history, the 79th New York, formed during the War Between the States. Some of us who are not Camerons might choose to wear it in reference to that history.

Cheers!

Actually, the 79th NY was an antebellum militia regiment, being raised in 1858.

T.