Meeting the Chief for Lunch

[Mither Tap]

Thanks Tuirc...

Quine = Lassie (or girl). It is a Doric word as opposed to generic Scots, where doric is the dialect of the scots language spoken in the Buchan area (North East). It is a wee bit different from the rest of the Scots language in a few areas.

The verse is a part of a folk song called "Lintin Lowrin" or "the Barnyards of Delgaty" depending on who you talk too.

Chris S

[creagdhubh]

The verse is a part of a folk song called "Lintin Lowrin" or "the Barnyards of Delgaty" depending on who you talk too.

Chris S

Fantastic tune! Especially done well by The Old Blind Dogs.

[Tuirc]

Thanks Tuirc...

Quine = Lassie (or girl). It is a Doric word as opposed to generic Scots

I didn't stand a chance then

The verse is a part of a folk song called "Lintin Lowrin" or "the Barnyards of Delgaty" depending on who you talk too.

Chris S

I'll look for it, I love to hear it. Thanks

[Tuirc]

Over in Scotland now. I thought I would report back on how it went. In the event, I went with hiking boots (we were making the climb up to the old clan rally point, Creag an Tuirc after lunch), blue kilt hose, kilt, leather sporran and Arran sweater. The chief was similarly attired, but with brogues and green hose and sweater. The lunch was grand and Donald and Maida couldn't have been more gracious or charming. A wonderful time. You can't beat having your chief point out the spot, in his backyard, where Rob Roy fought, and lost, his last duel. The MacGregors had ccome to do battle with the MacLarens. But they found themselves outnumbered as athe Stewarts of Appin had joined them. So, Rob Roy offered single combat to first blood. And there he lost his only duel. Amazing stuff!

[English Bloke]

Pictures?

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Donald and his wife, Maida, will soon set you at ease so relax and simply enjoy the occasion. On the comment about not wearing a black jacket, the chief often wears just that but of the type that has regular black buttons, not silver ones. Similar to an Argyll jacket it's often referred to here as a "Braemar" jacket. I would agree with ditching headgear unless you are planning on marching in an outdoor parade and sgian dubhs are perfectly legal in Scotland

I was going to chime in and reiterate the advice others have given you, but I see now the day has come and gone and you seemed to have dressed yourself quite well. :-) I'm sure you had a wonderful time.

I did just want to comment on the above with a minor correction. "Braemar" refers to a sleeve cuff style, not a button color. A typical Argyle jacket (with gauntlet cuffs) made with black buttons would be called "an Argyle jacket with black buttons" in my book. A Braemar jacket is one with this style cuff on the sleeve.

This is the style typically used on Prince Charlie jackets so some will call them "Prince Charlie cuffs," but you can find this style sleeve on Argyle jackets, as well.

[creagdhubh]

Over in Scotland now. I thought I would report back on how it went. In the event, I went with hiking boots (we were making the climb up to the old clan rally point, Creag an Tuirc after lunch), blue kilt hose, kilt, leather sporran and Arran sweater. The chief was similarly attired, but with brogues and green hose and sweater. The lunch was grand and Donald and Maida couldn't have been more gracious or charming. A wonderful time. You can't beat having your chief point out the spot, in his backyard, where Rob Roy fought, and lost, his last duel. The MacGregors had ccome to do battle with the MacLarens. But they found themselves outnumbered as athe Stewarts of Appin had joined them. So, Rob Roy offered single combat to first blood. And there he lost his only duel. Amazing stuff!

Glad you had a wonderful time with your chief in Scotland!

Cheers,

[davidg]

A Braemar jacket is one with this style cuff on the sleeve.

This is the style typically used on Prince Charlie jackets so some will call them "Prince Charlie cuffs," but you can find this style sleeve on Argyle jackets, as well.

Just to clarify what I posted. Over here there is considerable disagreement amongst outfitters as to what each style is called. What Matt refers to as a Braemar is what I and others call a Crail whereas the Crail is to me a Braemar. I'm sure there is a definitive answer somewhere and Matt may well be right but that doesn't stop outfitters using whatever names they will. In many places Matt's Braemar is even referred to as a Argyll. The moral of the story is to be wary if you are purchasing from an online retailer in the UK as you may not get what you think you ordered

Another small point is that the single button cuff over here usually has black buttons. I don't recall seeing one with silver buttons although they may well exist. To compare what I posted to Matt's picture then you would simply change what I called a Braemar into a Crail and the post will make more sense to you

[Tuirc]

Just a note on the various jacket styles. I spent some time in the various kilt shops on and around High street in Edinburgh the last couple of days. I can say they do sell a single silver buttoned jacket. It was selling for 179 pounds while the Breamer and Argyllshire cuffed jackets next to it were selling for 225 pounds each in one particular shop. I didn't see anyone wearing it, frankly I saw very few people wearing kilts in Scotland outside of the tourist industry. (other than me that is).

[creagdhubh]

I didn't see anyone wearing it, frankly I saw very few people wearing kilts in Scotland outside of the tourist industry. (other than me that is).

Sounds about right, mate. When I am in Scotland, I tend to see more kilts worn in the Highlands than in the larger cities. Did you happen to take any photos of the luncheon with your chief? If so, I am sure the rabble would love to see them!

Cheers,