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12th November 13, 06:41 AM
#11
Maybe the guy in the OP is a vet who hasn't worn the uniform in a while or had to "borrow" the kilt....or....just maybe....God Forbid....there's a new look coming....driven by the youth!?
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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12th November 13, 07:20 AM
#12
I know there is someone on Xmarks who is associated with the Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Highlanders who are from the Morrisville area, and so have all confidence that this will get sorted by someone more knowledgable than I, but the sporran of the officer in question looks like the SDG Highlanders, not Camerons. A news report of the event (the commemoration of the Battle for Chrysler's Farm) also notes that Mr Harper also announced that the regiment has received news that HM the Queen has agreed to become their Colonel-in-Chief.
The tartan then would be Macdonell of Glengarry
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12th November 13, 07:23 AM
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Regretfully, obviously, he has not been instructed in wearing highland dress, given the medals he wears. He has the photo to remember for ever his faux pas, but there is a senior subaltern and adjutant that need to be called to task...
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12th November 13, 07:40 AM
#14
 Originally Posted by plaid preacher
I know there is someone on Xmarks who is associated with the Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Highlanders who are from the Morrisville area, and so have all confidence that this will get sorted by someone more knowledgable than I, but the sporran of the officer in question looks like the SDG Highlanders, not Camerons. A news report of the event (the commemoration of the Battle for Chrysler's Farm) also notes that Mr Harper also announced that the regiment has received news that HM the Queen has agreed to become their Colonel-in-Chief.
The tartan then would be Macdonell of Glengarry
I think you're right! Now that I think of it, I think the Camerons wear a solid dark green necktie rather than tartan and don't have dicing on their glengarrys... Sharp eye! Also, you're right, Chrysler's farm is between Morrisburg and Cornwall and the SD&Gs are headquartered in Cornwall.
Natan Easbaig Mac Dhòmhnaill, FSA Scot
Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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12th November 13, 07:51 AM
#15
Ok... That brings the question...
Many kilt measuring instructions say to kneel on the floor and measure from the floor in that kneeled position up to the waist. Is that not correct?
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12th November 13, 08:10 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Kalok Sundancer
Ok... That brings the question...
Many kilt measuring instructions say to kneel on the floor and measure from the floor in that kneeled position up to the waist. Is that not correct?
No it's not right.
There are some that say kneel on the floor, measure to waist and subtract 1 (or 2) inches.
The best thing to do is to talk to your kiltmaker beforehand and measure (with the help of someone else) your body the way your kiltmaker wants you to. That way, you are both talking the same language.
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12th November 13, 08:33 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by BCAC
No it's not right.
There are some that say kneel on the floor, measure to waist and subtract 1 (or 2) inches.
The best thing to do is to talk to your kiltmaker beforehand and measure (with the help of someone else) your body the way your kiltmaker wants you to. That way, you are both talking the same language.
For instance, Utilikilts uses the "measure from the floor to the waist" measurement. This brings the kilt to just below my knees when worn at the waist.
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12th November 13, 09:11 AM
#18
 Originally Posted by BCAC
No it's not right.
There are some that say kneel on the floor, measure to waist and subtract 1 (or 2) inches.
The best thing to do is to talk to your kiltmaker beforehand and measure (with the help of someone else) your body the way your kiltmaker wants you to. That way, you are both talking the same language.
Precisely.
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12th November 13, 11:08 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by Kalok Sundancer
For instance, Utilikilts uses the "measure from the floor to the waist" measurement. This brings the kilt to just below my knees when worn at the waist.
That's how Utilikilts are meant to be worn (below the knee). This is not at all related to how traditional Scottish kilts are worn.
But yeah, many kiltmakers use the "kneel on the floor" basis for measurement. As long as you talk to the kiltmaker and make sure that they use that measurement to get it back up to the top of the knee (or wherever you want it), it should be OK. Each maker has their own system or recommendations for measurements.
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12th November 13, 11:31 AM
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The kneeling on the floor thing is actually an old kilt maker trick.
When a traditional kilt is made there are two parts to the length measurement. The Drop and the Rise.
The Drop is defined as from the center of the top strap and buckle, down to the bottom of the hem.
The Rise is defined as from the center of the top strap and buckle, up to the top of the kilt.
Try this, find a yard stick on anything that will reach from your knees up to your natural waist.
Then kneel on the floor.
Place the end of your yardstick on the floor next to you knee and reach up to your natural waist.
place a mark or hold the yardstick at the natural waist and stand up.
Go find a full length mirror.
Now, raise the yardstick until the mark you made is 2" above your natural waist. Notice that the bottom of the yardstick is now right at the top of you kneecap.
This is how kilt makers used to figure out the length of the kilt. Measure from the natural waist down to the floor and make the total length of the kilt that long.
Then drop down 2" to install the straps and buckles.
The whole kilt will now ride 2" higher.
And the hem is right at the top of the knee cap just as your yardstick did.
If you put on a kilt made this way the hem will not brush the floor but in fact will be exactly 2" up from the floor.
Last edited by The Wizard of BC; 12th November 13 at 11:33 AM.
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