Kilt question to the rabble

[IsaacW]

No other strap. In that way, and ONLY that way, it reminds me of my regimental kilt.

[Highlander31]

That does not look like a selvedge to me. It looks like a cut edge and a running chain stitch to keep it in place.

I agree with you, Chas. That looks like a chain stitch to me, as well.

[HarveyH]

I agree with you, Chas. That looks like a chain stitch to me, as well.

Not so much chain stitch, but the edge from the weave which is fairly standard on fast commercial looms - a Leno .

This sort of edging is used by many weavers these days - for example House of Edgar have one good selvedge on their new single width cloth and one leno edge - one good kilt edge but much faster cloth production.

[Tobus]

From what I see, that's one of those pseudo-Blackwatch tartans that's common on generic kilts. Not a good match for the real thing. I'd take it apart and repurpose it.

[IsaacW]

From what I see, that's one of those pseudo-Blackwatch tartans that's common on generic kilts. Not a good match for the real thing. I'd take it apart and repurpose it.

Yes, the "railroad" tracks do not match the Black Watch. I noticed that too late but it does match the tartan referred to as "Sutherland 42nd" which is questionable I suppose.

Next question is what to repurpose it as... A simple box pleat for wearing while running races, and beating around, or repurpose for something completely different.

[California Highlander]

Why not just wear it as a "weekend" or "pub" kilt?

[Nathan]

How does it look on? I don't mind the "Sutherland 42nd" tartan. Looks like your centre pleat was pressed askew by a drycleaner.

[figheadair]

Yes, commercial cloth, probably woven on a Rapier loom hence the lack of selvedge. If intended for kilting then this type of cloth is finished with a tucked (glued) edge - it's not a selvedge. It looks like a homemade kilt from a length of remnant material.

The sett is the simplified Gov't tartan which is generally sold as Black Watch of Sutherland but Pendleton Woolen Mills sold this as Wartley but it is not known why.

[OC Richard]

For purposes of clarity, or accuracy, I should point out that the "Sutherland" tartan worn by The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders has the exact alternating double-track feature that appears in the tartan of The Black Watch; here's a photo of an A&SH kilt that shows it clearly

[Tobus]

For purposes of clarity, or accuracy, I should point out that the "Sutherland" tartan worn by The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders has the exact alternating double-track feature that appears in the tartan of The Black Watch; here's a photo of an A&SH kilt that shows it clearly

True, but what figheadair is referring to is an actual simplified tartan that's often called the Sutherland 42nd tartan. Even Clan Sutherland recognizes it: http://www.clansutherland.org/FrTartans.htm (5th down on the right side of the page). They describe it as:

Although similar to Black Watch, the black stripes appear on every blue band instead of every other making it a shorter sett. It appeared in Wilson's Key Pattern Book of 1819 and there is a sample in the Museum of Antiquities of Scotland in Edinburgh. Both have this as being a Sutherland tartan.

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