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View Poll Results: How often do you wear a kilt? (Includes any type or style of kilt )
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0% - I do not wear a kilt
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1% - I will, or have, worn a kilt for 1 or 2 events in my life. (My own wedding etc.)
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10% - I wear a kilt for Scottish themed events only. (Burn's Dinners, Highland Games, etc.)
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10% - I wear a kilt for special events only. (Weddings, Prom, civilian balls etc.)
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about 25% - I wear a kilt a few times a month
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25% to 50% - I wear a kilt about once a week.
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50% to 75% - I wear a kilt about 2 or 3 times a week.
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75% to 99% - I usually wear a kilt but will put on pants once or twice a month.
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100% - A kilt is my primary clothing item.
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I have to wear pants at work or for safety. Otherwise kilt all the time.
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1st November 15, 03:17 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Kamilavalamp
Sorry I didn't make the distinction, I was born in America and distinctions like English\British And UK\England\Great Britain\Britannia\British Empire Always confuse me.
I was raised Irish-American and we always called anyone from Britain English. Now since I discovered I'm Scottish and Irish I should learn the difference.
And here's the explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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1st November 15, 03:38 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
That was fun.
I actually knew most of that (at one time) - a good memory jogger. Within my paternal grandmother's lineage I have ancestors from throughout the British Isles, including Irish, Welsh, Scots and English.
If you are too busy to laugh, you are too busy.
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1st November 15, 03:41 PM
#13
This is an interesting idea, but I agree with Jock.
While there may be more people in Scotland wearing the kilt now it is still mostly for weddings and hogmanay etc, there are people who wear a kilt to the football (If Scotland's playing) which would bump the numbers up some but I'd still say that 95% of people wear one less than 10 times a year and 90% would be rented.
Personally I would like to see the kilt become more accepted as an option for daily wear but I can't see it ever becoming common here or anywhere else in the world.
Jordan
All figures made up off the top of my head.
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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1st November 15, 03:51 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
MY GOD MAN, Excuse me father,
THAT'S the explanation?!
I THOUGHT MY HEAD WAS GONNA EXPLODE!!!
I made it 4 minutes in and started getting dizzy.
I'm gonna have to play that a couple times in slow motion.
No wonder my forefathers wanted independence.
I don't think they could understand how they even fit into that spider web.
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1st November 15, 03:54 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by Kamilavalamp
MY GOD MAN, Excuse me father,
THAT'S the explanation?!
I THOUGHT MY HEAD WAS GONNA EXPLODE!!!
I made it 4 minutes in and started getting dizzy.
I'm gonna have to play that a couple times in slow motion.
No wonder my forefathers wanted independence.
I don't think they could understand how they even fit into that spider web.
I like this video, its funny but just confuses me and I've lived here my whole life!
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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1st November 15, 04:04 PM
#16
I'm not sure what is taught in History/Social Studies in Canada currently, however this is all common knowledge to Canadians of my vintage. Canadians have also been exposed to a considerable amount of American history either in school or via tv and movies, and perhaps we tend to forget that others do not share this wonderful trivia.
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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1st November 15, 04:22 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Liam
I'm not sure what is taught in History/Social Studies in Canada currently, however this is all common knowledge to Canadians of my vintage. Canadians have also been exposed to a considerable amount of American history either in school or via tv and movies, and perhaps we tend to forget that others do not share this wonderful trivia.
In America our public schools are so bad they don't even teach us half of our own history, let alone anyone else's. Half of what they do teach us about our own history is wrong as well. I asked them once in 12 grade to teach me about world war 1 since they never did that in any of my schooling and they outright refused. You should be very grateful that you got your education in Canada because if you can't afford private school for your kids here, they won't get an education.
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1st November 15, 04:47 PM
#18
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
He is broadly correct but he is wrong about the established Anglican Church which pertains to England only while the UK state acknowledges (although does not establish as theologically speaking it cannot) the national Church of Scotland (within Scotland only) which is Presbyterian. The bit about the Crown coming from God was a bit silly and such a justification for the Crown's existence has been ambiguous at best since 1688/89.
He is also wrong about Ireland, the official English language name of what is often incorrectly called the 'Republic of Ireland' is merely 'Ireland'. Northern Ireland is also a place where nomenclature can take on contested meanings and not a matter to get into the nitty-gritty of on XMTS.
Last edited by Peter Crowe; 1st November 15 at 04:50 PM.
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2nd November 15, 03:12 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by Jordan
This is an interesting idea, but I agree with Jock.
While there may be more people in Scotland wearing the kilt now it is still mostly for weddings and hogmanay etc, there are people who wear a kilt to the football (If Scotland's playing) which would bump the numbers up some but I'd still say that 95% of people wear one less than 10 times a year and 90% would be rented.
Personally I would like to see the kilt become more accepted as an option for daily wear but I can't see it ever becoming common here or anywhere else in the world.
Jordan
All figures made up off the top of my head.
I'd agree generally but think your estimate of the percentage kilt wearers too High, as an example of the 26 descendants (plus their partners) of my father and mother (originating mostly in central Scotland), I am the only one to have worn a kilt to anything other than a wedding.
Most have only ever worn a Hired Kilt and then only once or twice, definitely not less than ten times a year, which gives the feel of a larger number.
Will it become more common? probably, but in many cases due to a lack of Knowledge of Scottish history.
Will it become a fashion Item? yes and no, Tartan is seen as an old fashioned concept for anything including wearing, However several male "fashion designers" have adopted wearing plain coloured kilts (with or without non standard kilt accessories) and in some quarters this has become more acceptable as a fashion item.
I'd also note that often the Gaels express the cause of highland "oppression" in the past, as the English, BUT they refer to any English speaker from lowland Scotland as a Sassanach (SAXON), which many in Scotland wrongly think it refers only to the English.
A Gael may be Scottish, but he is not a Scot, and a Scot is not a Kilt wearing Highlander.
Then of course we could add in the history of the former Welsh speakers of the Kingdom of Strathclyde, but that would confuse things even more.
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give"
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
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2nd November 15, 07:39 AM
#20
A quick note... tartan was never banned. The various postscription acts and their amendments did address Highland clothing (plaid, kilt, trews, and tartan upper garments)as illegal with exemption of soldiers, officers, landed men and their sons. Interestingly their are VERY few recorded trials for this, and there are additionally plenty of examples of trials and mentions where the law was ignored in this manner. I have been doing a bit of reading on this (inspired by the first 4 chapters of Gibson's book, Traditional Gaelic Bagpiping), and there seems to be a lot more to what actually happened (or even what DID NOT happen) regarding these laws than popular myth tells us.
Isaac
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