Help needed with dating a goat hair sporran with Scottish silver markings.

[LaidlawBell]

Greetings from the North of England.

I have recently acquired a number of pieces from an evening dress set , comprising of Argyle jacket, Tam o'Shanter, belted fly plaid, goats hair sporran with silver chain, a day sporran, tartan breeches, sgian-dudh with silver detailing, a white metal broach with thistle and Celtic motif centred on an orange paste stone.

I was wondering if anyone was able to help me with dating this chain. I am also looking for the silver markings.

I've learnt that it is Scottish Silver (Thistle) - Edinburgh (Castle) & (F) ? - There is also a letter R.&P. - I gather this is the makers name?

Should anyone be able to help me date this I would be very grateful. I am also willing to share other pieces with anyone who cares to see. (I estimate circa. 1930-1950) - Tartan - MacGregor.

All the best,

Gillan Bell (3/4 Scots)

[Tarheel]

Since many of us can not visit and examine the pieces in person, therefore photos help. Close ups (if possible) will guide us in the right direction to identify the items.

[LaidlawBell]

Hi there .

I did upload 4 images to the message . For some strange reason they have failed to upload ? May this be due to being a 'Newbie'? I understand posts go under review to avoid spam.

The photos are visible via the paper clip icon ( previous page) along side if my thread . If you click on this icon the photos become viable .

In the mean time I will ask the moderator for a quick fix.

Regards . Gil

[Jock Scot]

Is the "F" in an oval or shield? Assuming it is actually a capital "F"? From memory, if the "F" is in an oval stamp the date is 1862 and if the "F" is in a shield stamp then its 1911.

[Father Bill]

Did you try uploading your pictures directly? I have my best luck that way.

Click on the "picture" icon at the top of where you're making your post,



Then "browse" to the photo on your computer and click on it, then click "upload" and voila!

Should work.

[LaidlawBell]

Hi.

It seems the files exceeded the size limit required. Hopefully these should upload with no issues. (Note - The goat hair is + 5 inches in length - Sadly the bottom of the image was cut away during cropping)

Regards, Gillan.

[LaidlawBell]

Thank you for the quick response regarding the stamps - I can confirm the 'F' is within a shield.

- I will keep note of the 'Insert Image' icon for future posts. Cheers, Bill !

Attached is a further 3 images. I was wondering if should pieces were of any value?

Warm Regards.

[LaidlawBell]

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[LaidlawBell]

Should anyone know the age of the sporran I would love to hear from you. - It may help if I upload the other 10 items in question (complete evening set). If I get time tomorrow I will try and get that sorted. Unless there is a particular group I should be sharing in then please let me know.

Cheers!

Gil.

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[LaidlawBell]

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I guess the next big question would be value?

There is some rubbing to the top casing to note where the plate has come away over the years . It looks pretty good other then that with minor marking to the inside straps. The multiple silver marking to the chain are all visible to the naked eye and the rear 'leather?' backing looks clean with no loose threading, holes or marks.