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                                                24th August 07, 01:01 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Difference Argyll/Braemer
		
			
				
					What is the difference or reasons to own 
 Argyll Jacket
 or
 Braemer Jacket
 
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                                                24th August 07, 02:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Mostly I believe the difference is in the sleeve detail with an Argyle you have an upturned cuff with 3 buttons, the Braemar you don'tto illustrate
 
 the Argyle sleeve:
 
  
 the Braemar sleeve:
 
  
 Here are some descriptions from kiltstore:
 
 Argyll Jackets
 The Argyll day/evening jacket is versatile,altering its formality with accessories. Suitable for all occasions, from dinners and Burns Suppers, balls and ceilidhs, to weddings, graduations, Highland games or simply as general day wear.
 
 Braemar Jackets
 Similar to the Argyll jacket, but with more formal Prince Charlie style cuffs, the versatile Braemar can alter its formality by changing accessories. Suitable for all occasions, from dinners and dances, to graduations and weddings, or simply as smart day wear.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th August 07, 02:49 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Once you get into the "cut-out" styles of jackets, the differences get into cuffs and pocket flaps.  Really, that's about it.In the ones I have/will modify, I just leave them in the modern plain styles.
 Some go through the effort of recreating the fancier style cuffs, but you don't HAVE to.
 
 
 There is a nice chart showing the differences in the specific named styles, but I can't seem to find it on-line right now.  I downloaded a jpeg of it , but DON'T copyright on it. so I won't post it without the source.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th August 07, 04:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Here's a pic I shamelessly borrowed from the Burnetts & Struth catalog.
 
   Steve Ashtonwww.freedomkilts.com
 Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
 I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th August 07, 05:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I like the Crail the best.  No nonsense, can be dressed up or down with ease.
				 Wallace Catanach, Kiltmaker
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                                                24th August 07, 07:26 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	THAT'S the one!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC   Here's a pic I shamelessly borrowed from the Burnetts & Struth catalog.  
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th August 07, 06:48 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Thank You
		
			
				
					This is exactly what I was looking for.  Thank You so much.  As an avid motorcyclist I find the enthusiast forums a wealth of information.  Now adding Piping to my fun activities I find this forum to be outstanding with all that it offers.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th August 07, 09:06 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have two made-to-measure Argylls from Lochcarron through Kathy's Kilts who did the logistics.  I chose the Argyll over the other styles available for no other reason than that I liked that look best.
 No rocket science or rules...my money, I like, I buy that one.
 
 Waiting for the Earth to tilt its axis so its cool enough here to wear them.
 
 Ron
 Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton IslandLifetime Member STA.  Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
 "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th August 07, 12:10 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Both jackets are nice, though I tend to prefer the less-common Braemar.
				 [B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                26th August 07, 12:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Slightly off topic but does anyone know where the names of these jackets comes from? I thought it might be because people in the towns they are named after wore that style but I know, for instance, that Crail is a small fishing village in Fife not notable for kilt-wearing. I know too that what I call a Montrose doublet others call a Kenmore and what they call a Montrose I know as a Military doublet. I have never seen a definitive list of the various styles and have come to the conclusion that each tailor makes up their own names for the jackets they make which adds to the confusion. Does anyone have a view on this jacket naming and whether there should be an "official" list of designs?
				 
				
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