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    Boxxer for Birthday

    Hello all,

    Long ago I stated my goal of losing weight to fit into a new tank for my 40th birthday. It worked...and a few weeks early at that. A full summer of running and riding with my son have earned me the same body I had 15 years ago.

    But I cheated by ordering enough wool for two kilts and a plaid. I started by stitching a 19 ounce knife pleated tank- set to the stripe. Then I put it aside to craft this matching boxer- pleated to the sett. Luckily for me, the Mackenzie Seaforth tartan is just about perfect to get a consistent repeat with minor tinkering. The center stripes hit my naval and spine right on the mark. <I neglected align it properly for these hurried images. My photographer is recovering from shoulder surgery, and was not in top form>



    It's actually something of a hybrid between knife pleating and box pleating. I'm planning to pass it on to my son Alex, who's dwarfing first graders at the age of 4. He'll be built like all the other Kinney men, and outgrow me by age 15. The first and last pleats are knife shaped to hide extra textile that I'll let out when his time comes. (I kinda like the fringe, sorry Matt.)

    We're having a gathering with the locals this weekend, so I'll update this post with better images.

    Cheers,

    Kevin.
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    Please explain how it can be a hybrid between a box and knife pleat?

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    Looks good Kevin!

    As to how a kilt can have both knife pleats and box pleats, it's not that hard to do. In fact, my Carolina tartan kilt has one knife pleat in it, on the right side, because I didn't have enough cloth to do a box pleat there, and given the way this pleat falls along the apron edge, when the kilt is worn you can't see any difference!

    I recall Bob Martin once sharing with me that a client of his saw a Victorian-era picture showing a man in a tweed kilt that was knife pleated except for one single wide box pleat on the left (I believe) hip. He wanted a kilt made like that, so Bob did it for him.

    Of course the so-called Kinguisse style of pleating is a combination of box pleats and knife pleats -- a single box pleat in the center with knife pleats running in opposite directions from either side.

    So it can be done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    ...Of course the so-called Kinguisse style of pleating is a combination of box pleats and knife pleats -- a single box pleat in the center with knife pleats running in opposite directions from either side...
    Note to self - must own one of these some day...

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    That looks great!! I'm still tinkering with how to get the box pleats to match to the sett on my "Stewart Black". You've done a great job.

    Can we get more detailed pics of your combination pleats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    Looks good Kevin!

    As to how a kilt can have both knife pleats and box pleats, it's not that hard to do. In fact, my Carolina tartan kilt has one knife pleat in it, on the right side, because I didn't have enough cloth to do a box pleat there, and given the way this pleat falls along the apron edge, when the kilt is worn you can't see any difference!

    I recall Bob Martin once sharing with me that a client of his saw a Victorian-era picture showing a man in a tweed kilt that was knife pleated except for one single wide box pleat on the left (I believe) hip. He wanted a kilt made like that, so Bob did it for him.

    Of course the so-called Kinguisse style of pleating is a combination of box pleats and knife pleats -- a single box pleat in the center with knife pleats running in opposite directions from either side.

    So it can be done!
    Matt
    Well that makes sense. I was trying to picture a half knife and half box pleat.

    A half knife pleat would be just a smaller knife pleat, while a half box pleat would be a knife pleat.

    Now mixing the two, together on one kilt, could be required and/or wanted, depending on the application.

    The Kinguise also sounds quite attractive!

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    Congrats on losing weight! You'll have more energy and feel better too. Oh, and, nice looking kilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post

    Of course the so-called Kinguisse style of pleating is a combination of box pleats and knife pleats -- a single box pleat in the center with knife pleats running in opposite directions from either side.
    Not that I own one, but isn't that the style of Utillakilts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_the_Kilted View Post
    Not that I own one, but isn't that the style of Utillakilts?
    Utilikilts does this in reverse.

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    Congrats on winning the Battle of the Bulge, marvelous looking kilt!

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