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                                                17th January 08, 12:30 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					There's a simple explanation for that, Chef, as I tell my literature students: history is what we've got, and fiction is what we want. Given that choice, which would you choose? As T.S. Eliot says, history is the experience, myth is the meaning. 
 But if what you're really objecting to is fiction presenting itself as history, I agree with you there. That's a tad irresponsible of Hollywood to do that as it often does.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th January 08, 01:02 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					There is a difference between adding bits which do not interfere with history and which could have theoretically happened and stuff which has no or little historical accuracy.
 Holywood alas does not always know the difference!
   [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
 Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
 (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th January 08, 07:41 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The second part is, yep.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Mr. MacDougall   About Guy Fawkes and the Parliamentary Plot?  Hmm.  I'll have to toss that in my NetFlix Queue. The first part is all about Mary queen of Scots.
 
 Played by the delectable Clemence Posey. (Who beats Scarlett Johannsen any day.)
 
  
 Both parts are great viewing and stay almost completely historically accurate.
 
 (Though if you want some fun after watching it all, go ahead and research what happened to Bothwell at the end of his life.)
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th January 08, 09:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Very well said!!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by auld argonian   I've said it before"
 Those who do not study history are condemned to learn it from Hollywood.
 
 Best
 
 AA
   [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th January 08, 09:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Well said.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by auld argonian   I've said it before"
 Those who do not study history are condemned to learn it from Hollywood.
 
 Best
 
 AA
 
 Everyone should read George McDonald Frasier's Hollywood History of the World.  Written, as always, with great wit and humour.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th January 08, 08:00 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That is what I really meant. I love good fiction; I just hate fiction dressed up as history, particularly when that history is as interesting as anything Hollywood could think up.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Cirthalion   But if what you're really objecting to is fiction presenting itself as history, I agree with you there. That's a tad irresponsible of Hollywood to do that as it often does. 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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