Kilts???

**McFarkus** · 22nd January 08, 08:10 AM

SAM,

from Chicago

**AnimalK** · 22nd January 08, 10:33 PM

Howdy from North Texas!!!

**James MacMillan** · 22nd January 08, 10:43 PM

from Sunny Southern California!

**slohairt** · 22nd January 08, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by seanboy

I disagree with this, saffron coloured kilts are mainly worn by loyalist ulster scots who would never refer to themselves as irish.

Actually, Saffron kilts are also worn by the military pipe bands in the Republic of Ireland as well. Some experts also surmise that the saffron kilt may have got its start with Pádraig Pearse, who was most definitely neither a loyalist nor an Ulster Scot!

**McClef** · 23rd January 08, 04:28 AM

from South Wales UK!

The colours in an individual tartan are not indicative of rank or social class.

They may of course have significance relating to the clan or area or country or organisation they are named after.

**SteveB** · 23rd January 08, 05:18 AM

from Boston, Massachusetts.
As you may have noticed in the avatars of some of the posters to this thread, there are many colours to the kilt. Find what you are comfortable with and go from there. Mine is the Irish National Tartan by Stillwater Kilts. The whole point is to wrap yourself in a kilt and enjoy the comfort and freedom. You have been given a lot of resources already. All over this page are advertisers of kilts. Check out their catalouges on line. SWK, USA Kilts, both have indicators of what are "universal" tartans. Then there is always a self colour (solid colour) kilt. I hope you enjoy the board
Welcome to ye rabble.
--- Steve

**Rampant Lion** · 23rd January 08, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by PiobBear

Only a clan chief wears the clan badge; everyone else wears it enclosed in a buckler.

This is a little different from what I understand. I always thought that the the Crest of the Arms of the chief of the clan surrounded by the belt and buckle (I've seen this called a garter) is what is commonly referred to as the Clan Badge. It was this Clan Badge that clansmen were to wear. It is my understsanding that the chief may display his Arms; the crest, shield, supporters, etc.. or where the badge with (3) feathers.

Crests

**macwilkin** · 23rd January 08, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rampant Lion

This is a little different from what I understand. I always thought that the the Crest of the Arms of the chief of the clan surrounded by the belt and buckle (I've seen this called a garter) is what is commonly referred to as the Clan Badge. It was this Clan Badge that clansmen were to wear. It is my understsanding that the chief may display his Arms; the crest, shield, supporters, etc.. or where the badge with (3) feathers.

Crests

I've never seen a plain circlet with the full achievement of arms, only the motto and the crest, but that doesn't mean it's not out there!

T.

**Rampant Lion** · 25th January 08, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I've never seen a plain circlet with the full achievement of arms, only the motto and the crest, but that doesn't mean it's not out there!

T.

Me neither.

PiobBear said that only the Clan Chief wears the clan badge and everyone else wears it in a buckler. What I was trying to say in my post was that I thought that a Clan Badge was the crest in the belt(garter). Thereby, clansmen wear the clan badge.

Isn't this(these) the Grant Clan Badge that clansmen would wear?

Or am I confused with the terminology?