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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    I always found the term "southern" Irish to be funny. I'm considered southern Irish despite the fact that my home county of Donegal is the most northerly on the isle!
    From a geographical standpoint, you are correct, but I use the term "Southern" to those living "south of the border" between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

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    I know, I always thought it a funny term. I lived east of the border!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    I know, I always thought it a funny term. I lived east of the border!


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    This it not my frame of expertise, I bow to your superior knowledge and will allow you to supplement my curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    I've usually read that the 'Scotch-Irish' term was coined in the US, whereas 'Ulster-Scots' is used in Ireland and the UK
    Unless you are referring to our national drink, whisky, then Scotch is regarded by Scots as a derogatory term very much like wops or dagoes or frogs and as such it is much used by our fellow Britons living south of the border.

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    String - as you continue your research, please remember to arm yourself with all possible spelling combinations. Computers are literal and spoken speach is not.

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    Yes, I have already discovered that the way my dad spelled the name is quite erroneous (and he prides himself on his spelling too!)

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    does this help?



    The sample in the HSL Collection has purple for blue. Odd numbered thread counts due to halving of count to show full sett. This is much closer to that shown in William & Andrew Smith's 1950 'Authenticated Tartans of the Clans and Families of Scotland' in that the red and yellow bands are wider. The Smiths show a black guard on the red however. The earliest known date recorded from a list compiled by D C Stewart from Wilsons of Bannockburn letters is 1822.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Unless you are referring to our national drink, whisky, then Scotch is regarded by Scots as a derogatory term very much like wops or dagoes or frogs and as such it is much used by our fellow Britons living south of the border.
    Casper was referring to the use of "Scotch" in the 19th century, when the term "Scotch-Irish" came into use. I have a number of references of Scots during that time (such as Robert Louis Stevenson) referring to themselves as "Scotch".

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyR View Post
    does this help?



    The sample in the HSL Collection has purple for blue. Odd numbered thread counts due to halving of count to show full sett. This is much closer to that shown in William & Andrew Smith's 1950 'Authenticated Tartans of the Clans and Families of Scotland' in that the red and yellow bands are wider. The Smiths show a black guard on the red however. The earliest known date recorded from a list compiled by D C Stewart from Wilsons of Bannockburn letters is 1822.
    Thank you, that is helpful, although none of the names are familiar.

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