Macdonell Of Keppoch

**Jock Scot** · 26th February 08, 02:25 AM

Thanks for all that.I don't think that any of the locals here will know of the detail that the above contains.It was obviously a much bigger battle than I most certainly thought.It also clearly points out that the Scots were more than capable of doing awful things to each other,with or without the help of the English.A point well worth remembering.

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 26th February 08, 06:25 AM

Sorry I'm coming late to this thread. I just wanted to comment on the original post regarding the sett size of the tartans. The thing to remember there is that the sett size is going to be largely dependant upon the weavers. Any tartan can be woven on a larger or smaller scale. Often times the heavier weight cloths are woven on a larger scale (because they are primarily going to be used to make kilts) whereas lighter weight cloths are produced on a smaller scale (to be made into ties, scarves, etc.).

So if you want to know the exact sett size, you need to get a swatch from the mill weaving the cloth.

What you have there are computer generated images, which can tell you [I]relative[I]sett size, because these images are generated assuming a 1:1 ratio.

The current accepted clan tartan is No. 511, which has 218 threads to the repeat. No. 1506 has 388 threads by comparison. I think these two are the only ones you will be able to find without having the cloth custom woven. 511, the standard version, is the one woven by most all mills. House of Edgar also produces 1506.

Aye,
Matt

**Streetcar** · 26th February 08, 10:06 AM

Boldhighlander -
It appears we are distant cousins after all!

Here's my partial lineage as it was given to me:

John MacRanald, born about 1570 (John's father was born about 1550)

His son, Alexander MacRanald, born about 1600, (who is supposed to have married Princess Margaret Stewart, daughter of King Robert II Bruce. However I've not been able to verify this, as I thought she married the MacDonald, the Lord of the Isles).

His son is "Johne M. McReynolds or Mc Ranald or Mac Rannald", born before 1639 "of Keppech (sic) area, Scotland".

His son is said to be John McReynolds, who was born Aug 1672 in Keppoch (sic), and died 1760, Stewartstown, County Tyrone, Ireland.
In 1687 he went to Ireland in the British Army. After the Willamette wars he married and remained in Ireland.

His oldest son, Joseph, was born 1720 in Killyman, Dungannon, County Tyrone, Ireland. He married Sarah Dixion while in Ireland. They had nine children, one of whom was Roland.

Roland moved to North Carolina, and there raised his family.

His youngest son, John McReynolds, married and moved his family of seven to Kentucky. They lived there two years and moved to Posey Co., Indiana.

John’s youngest child, Melvina McReynolds, was orphaned at the age of ten. She married John Cavett, who died in 1879.

Here the McReynolds line separates from my tree.

**BoldHighlander** · 26th February 08, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Streetcar

Boldhighlander -
It appears we are distant cousins after all!

Here's my partial lineage as it was given to me:

John MacRanald, born about 1570 (John's father was born about 1550)

His son, Alexander MacRanald, born about 1600, (who is supposed to have married Princess Margaret Stewart, daughter of King Robert II Bruce. However I've not been able to verify this, as I thought she married the MacDonald, the Lord of the Isles).

His son is "Johne M. McReynolds or Mc Ranald or Mac Rannald", born before 1639 "of Keppech (sic) area, Scotland".

His son is said to be John McReynolds, who was born Aug 1672 in Keppoch (sic), and died 1760, Stewartstown, County Tyrone, Ireland.
In 1687 he went to Ireland in the British Army. After the Willamette wars he married and remained in Ireland.

His oldest son, Joseph, was born 1720 in Killyman, Dungannon, County Tyrone, Ireland. He married Sarah Dixion while in Ireland. They had nine children, one of whom was Roland.

Roland moved to North Carolina, and there raised his family.

His youngest son, John McReynolds, married and moved his family of seven to Kentucky. They lived there two years and moved to Posey Co., Indiana.

John’s youngest child, Melvina McReynolds, was orphaned at the age of ten. She married John Cavett, who died in 1879.

Here the McReynolds line separates from my tree.

Ha! Small world afterall isn't it? Distant cousins seperated by a couple hours drive on I-5!

Hey thanks for the additional info on our line, all I had was from 1639 onwards

Have you had any contact with a Capt. Lynn R. McR. Hawkins, Ret, FSA Scot out of Bluff City, Tennessee? He's the one that's been researching our family for the past 40 yrs & is writing the book.

**BoldHighlander** · 26th February 08, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

Sorry I'm coming late to this thread. I just wanted to comment on the original post regarding the sett size of the tartans. The thing to remember there is that the sett size is going to be largely dependant upon the weavers. Any tartan can be woven on a larger or smaller scale. Often times the heavier weight cloths are woven on a larger scale (because they are primarily going to be used to make kilts) whereas lighter weight cloths are produced on a smaller scale (to be made into ties, scarves, etc.).

So if you want to know the exact sett size, you need to get a swatch from the mill weaving the cloth.

What you have there are computer generated images, which can tell you [I]relative[I]sett size, because these images are generated assuming a 1:1 ratio.

The current accepted clan tartan is No. 511, which has 218 threads to the repeat. No. 1506 has 388 threads by comparison. I think these two are the only ones you will be able to find without having the cloth custom woven. 511, the standard version, is the one woven by most all mills. House of Edgar also produces 1506.

Aye,
Matt

Thanks Matt, that's what I wanted to know.

**BoldHighlander** · 26th February 08, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

The current accepted clan tartan is No. 511, which has 218 threads to the repeat. No. 1506 has 388 threads by comparison. I think these two are the only ones you will be able to find without having the cloth custom woven. 511, the standard version, is the one woven by most all mills. House of Edgar also produces 1506.

Aye,
Matt

Matt,

does House of Edgar also produce 511? I assume Lochcarron does as well?
Thanks again.

Aye,
Terry

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 27th February 08, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

Matt,

does House of Edgar also produce 511? I assume Lochcarron does as well?
Thanks again.

Aye,
Terry

Yes, if you go with 511, you have your choice between Edgar and Locharron, and likely other mills, as well.

Lochcarron does it in a heavy weight in modern and ancient colors. Edgar offers is in a medium weight in modern colors. Strathmore offers it in light weight in modern colors.

**BoldHighlander** · 19th October 08, 07:05 PM

Just a brief note:
for those wishing to see photos taken by Jock Scot of the locations mentioned in earlier posts relating to the McDonells of Keppoch, then go to: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/m...922/index.html

Thanks again Jock!

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 24th October 08, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Highland Logan

The last battle to be fought on mainland British soil was Drummossie Moor, known now as culloden (16 April 1746).

Frank

On the 23rd of April, 1778, John Paul Jones landed two boats at the port of Whitehaven. The sailors made their way to the town's fortifications and spiked the cannon (which could have sunk Jones's ship). They then set several small fires about the town, and before leaving set fire to a coal ship in the harbor. On the 24th, having sailed unmolested across the Solway Firth, Jones set troops on St. Mary's Island with the intent of kidnapping the Earl of Selkirk and then exchanging him for American seamen held prisoner by the British. Selkirk was not in residence, and Jones's men carried off several pieces of silver instead. (As an aside, Jones purchased the silver in France and, after the war, returned it to Lord Selkirk.)

Maybe Culloden was the last MAJOR battle...

**macwilkin** · 25th October 08, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

On the 23rd of April, 1778, John Paul Jones landed two boats at the port of Whitehaven. The sailors made their way to the town's fortifications and spiked the cannon (which could have sunk Jones's ship). They then set several small fires about the town, and before leaving set fire to a coal ship in the harbor. On the 24th, having sailed unmolested across the Solway Firth, Jones set troops on St. Mary's Island with the intent of kidnapping the Earl of Selkirk and then exchanging him for American seamen held prisoner by the British. Selkirk was not in residence, and Jones's men carried off several pieces of silver instead. (As an aside, Jones purchased the silver in France and, after the war, returned it to Lord Selkirk.)

Maybe Culloden was the last MAJOR battle...

Sorry, Rathdown, but JPJ was not the last...ever hear of the "Battle" of Fishguard, Wales on 22 February 1797?

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK.../Fishguard.htm

The Pembrokeshire Yeomanry still bear the battle honour "FISHGUARD" on their cap badge, although it was a group of pitchfork-wielding Welsh women, led by one Jemima Nicholas, who were the real heroes of the day!

Regards,

Todd