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    How d'ya tie traditional garter ties?

    Maybe I'm just lousy with the search function, but amid all the discussion of garter ties, I've never seen a thread on how you tie them.

    I was inspired to learn to crochet a little bit by another thread in which someone showed off their knit/crocheted garter ties. They looked like little scarves. Now that I'm almost done with my first set (forest green, by the way), I don't know how to tie them.
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    Thank you, good sir!
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    here is Matt's tutorial
    http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/garter_howto.html
    I use a couple others
    1. A simple Square Knot ( because of the bult of the knot, I only use it with Hose the have "thick" cuffs or with my hose toppers.
    2. !/2 Windsor Knot ( like a tie ) A full Windsor can be used if you need to take up more material. ( this the one I like.)

    Here is a picture of the Windsor

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    I never thought of tying then like a tie before. Now that I've seen it, it seems like it would be a very good way to snug up the fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    I use a couple others
    1. A simple Square Knot ( because of the bult of the knot, I only use it with Hose the have "thick" cuffs or with my hose toppers.
    2. !/2 Windsor Knot ( like a tie ) A full Windsor can be used if you need to take up more material. ( this the one I like.)
    Puffer, you're an endless source of very useful ideas. Thanks for another one!

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    The only thing about the way Puffer does it is that it does bulk up and you do need to have the thicker hose to hide it. Whereas the way Matt Newsome has in his tutorial, you don't have the bulk and can use any type kilt hose. Also in my humble opinion the traditional knitted or crocheted garter ties will have a much larger knot if they are tied like a neck tie. They are thicker than what you buy from Matt Newsome.

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    I actually have taken to tying them slightly differently than in my on line tutorial (and one of the projects I hope to get to soon is to make a "how-to" video on this).

    Basically, you start by placing the center point of the garter at the outside of your leg. Then you cris-cross the garter around the inside of the leg, bringing the two ends back around to the outside. Then you tie them snug in a simple overhand knot. The final step is to then flip the ends of the knot up and under the garter, which will serve to hold the knot firmly in place. Then you fold down your hose and you are good to go!

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    I prefer to use a clove hitch - very similar to what McMurdo uses or what Matt describes - but pass one end under the garter where it crosses, and then let it hang down with the other end. This serves to "cinch" the garter in place, especially when the hose top is folded down.
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    Here are some thoughts that may be of assistance. I choose the type of "knot" I use based on the style Hose, the style Garter Tie, The "look" I am wearing.

    Type of Hose =
    Inexpensive (http://stores.ebay.com/WB-SOCKS_KILT...QQftidZ2QQtZkm )
    Standard (http://www.usakilts.com/store/cart.p...uct_detail&p=4 ) & (http://stores.shop.ebay.com/RAB-Sock...34Q2ec0Q2em322 ) & etc.
    Top Grade = ( http://www.usakilts.com/store/cart.p...ct_detail&p=78 ) & of course Matt's "LEWIS HOSE.

    Type of Ties =
    Silk or synthetic ribbon ( short & tied with NO ends showing )
    Standard Woven ( like Matt's )
    "Snake" Garter
    INKLE WOVEN ( not "knitted or crocheted" as mentioned above )

    Hose & Ties = TYPE OF KNOT I use.

    NOTE - The 1/2 WINDSOR KNOT is NOT that much more bulky than the way Matt shows, if tied & positioned correctly. The "full" Windsor is.

    Inexpensive Hose = Ribbon ( most of the time ) or "Standard woven Tie" ( tied sim. to the way Matt suggests.
    Standard Hose = Standard Woven Tie ( tied like Matt suggests or 1/2 Windsor ) INKLE Weave ( usually 1/2 Windsor.), Snake Garter ( tied as Matt suggests)

    Top Grade Hose = See Standard Hose.

    NOTE- INKLE WOVEN TIES.- My ties are VERY TIGHTLY WOVEN & are actually only slightly more "bulky" than Standard Woven Ties. But be advised, many INKLE woven Ties are not as tightly woven & use different yarn, therefore are bulkier.

    I hope this is of assistance.

    Puffer

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