Badges on the jacket lapels?

[Jock Scot]

Just remember Britain doesnt have Royal Marines. The UK does though!

To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain as we used to be known(Great meaning, the whole Island mass of Britain, not the modern usage and meaning of great meaning, "super" or "wonderful"). Don't forget the Battle of Britain, the British Army and the British fleet! Not this new fangled idea of the UK!

[Urchurdan]

To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain - Not this new fangled idea of the UK!

New fangled Jock? The United Kingdom came into being in 1603 with the Union of the Crowns, Britain didn't come into being for another 103 years in 1707 - not so new fangled methinks,
AND- sorry Jock, I have to be at odds with you again, but in the nicest possible way I hope.
I normally never wear badges on my lapels, except for my medals if the function requires it. However, at the Gathering, my American Chief and his good Lady presented us with Clan Badges to wear on our jackets.
It would have been churlish not to do so I thought, although it is rarely done here, our American Clanspeople tend to set great store by them, I really have no problem with it either way - the added dimension that all our folks from the new world add to kilt wearing is like a breath of fresh air at times, even though I could never bring myself to do or wear some of the things that they embrace.
GOOD ON THEM...
Tom...
Me wearing Badges

Oh, and if its good enough for this fella, its good enough for me...

He who laughs last - laughs longest......

[Jock Scot]

Each to their own. It would have been very churlish indeed not to graciously accept a gift. For me, I would have worn it for your guest and then placed it in a drawer and then, when the occasion arouse I would have only worn it if visiting the "presenter" in the USA, or when he returned to Scotland at some future date. Prince Charles is renowned for doing his own thing! As to the UK thing, I just knew some one was going to quote the 1603 bit! Britain was Britain before that, as a land mass.It still is! See, I don't think we differ by too much after all! LOL

[Paul]

To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain as we used to be known(Great meaning, the whole Island mass of Britain, not the modern usage and meaning of great meaning, "super" or "wonderful"). Don't forget the Battle of Britain, the British Army and the British fleet! Not this new fangled idea of the UK!

I see what you mean Jock but the term is very much generalized... even by Gordon Brown and most other politicians!
To me Britain is an island. The UK is a union of countries - including one outside the island of Britain so it could be seen as exclusive to make no reference to the entire kingdom.
I appreciate that the term "British" can be used to describe a citizen of the UK - or of course if people would rather reference to themselves as Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish or even Irish I think that would be fair enough - as these are still countries.

EDIT - thanks for the input Urchurdan!
and I can accept that people tend to generalize when speaking of the UK. Sadly many of those overseas could just as easily refer to it as "England"!

[Jock Scot]

I see what you mean Jock but the term is very much generalized... even by Gordon Brown and most other politicians!
To me Britain is an island. The UK is a union of countries - including one outside the island of Britain so it could be seen as exclusive to make no reference to the entire kingdom.
I appreciate that the term "British" can be used to describe a citizen of the UK - or of course if people would rather reference to themselves as Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish or even Irish I think that would be fair enough - as these are still countries.

EDIT - thanks for the input Urchurdan!
and I can accept that people tend to generalize when speaking of the UK. Sadly many of those overseas could just as easily refer to it as "England"!

We are heading into dangerous waters here, verging on talking about politics! All I will say, as far as I am concerned, I am British,Scottish section, and I consider that I live in Britain. Not the UK.

[Paul]

We are heading into dangerous waters here, verging on talking about politics! All I will say, as far as I am concerned, I am British,Scottish section, and I consider that I live in Britain. Not the UK.

It's no more political than someone saying America doesn't just consist of USA. Technically you're from Scotland, on the island of Britain, in the union of the UK, in the union of the EU, on the continent of Europe, on Earth.
Whatever you like to refer to your nationality, country or region is whatever you would rather say.
Personally - I'm a Glaswegian, Scottish Earthling and no more

perhaps I could find a badge to reflect this?

[Paul]

Me wearing Badges

I wish I bought one of those Gathering badges! They were a lot more expensive on the day so I had hoped to buy some of the website when I got home and they're out of stock.
Speaking of this - I ordered a Gathering t-shirt 2 months ago and it still hasnt arrived!

[Jock Scot]

Paul.

It is the way I was brought up I suppose and in my youth I served in the British army which contained men and women of all the nations of the British Isles and more than a few from elsewhere too! I have no time for all this divisive talk of independance. All that goes by the board when the bullets start flying and no one cares which part of Britain you come from then! Anything else is just froth and sentimental nonsense. Before I say too much, I will make no further comment and withdraw from this thread.

[Paul]

Paul.

It is the way I was brought up I suppose and in my youth I served in the British army which contained men and women of all the nations of the British Isles and more than a few from elsewhere too! I have no time for all this divisive talk of independance. All that goes by the board when the bullets start flying and no one cares which part of Britain you come from then! Anything else is just froth and sentimental nonsense. Before I say too much, I will make no further comment and withdraw from this thread.

Jock, I never mentioned anything to do with independence - or "independance". You stated what you consider yourself and I stated what I considered myself. I only did this to make a small joke out of the fact that we are all human!
I do not like to mention politics on a forum that does not condone it and I stayed as clear from it as possible on this thread. The fact that you have very much generalized what I have said and twisted it to your own satisfaction shows me that you are desperate to condemn those who do not share your opinion of these matters.

[macwilkin]

You do realize that your question and my answer could start WW3!

I am not actually sure of the history of the US Marine Corps, but at a guess they copied----could see the sense of-----Our Royal Marines,SAS,SBS. As my now retired son says," everyone else has Marines we(Britain) have Royal Marines"! As I understand it the SAS/SBS has had an input into training special forces from all over the world including the USA. In this part of the world we are proud of the fact that the Commandos(RM) trained many Americans for special operations in WW2. There is huge respect all around the globe for these special, tough and brave men from whichever country they come from.

Spot on, Jock!

If you look at the RM and USMC badges, you'll note that the former has a globe with the Eastern Hemisphere, while the latter the Western Hemisphere. The RM shares a "bond of friendship" with both the USMC and the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps (Korps Mariners). The RM and the USMC's special bond comes from their joint service in China during the Boxer Rebellion of 1900 (The USMC also shares a bond with the Royal Welch Fusiliers due that service.)

T.