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2nd February 10, 03:27 AM
#11
Or go to you local outdoors/hiking store and get some polypro boxers for hikers. I've used themswhen it's especially windy with good results.
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2nd February 10, 03:20 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by NewGuise
How cold, dare I ask? I've been out at -20C and lower, with windchill, and the worst is a little redness on the top of my knees where the kilt hits. I honestly feel warmer in a 4-5 yard wool kilt and wool hose than I do in trousers. My hands feel colder, in leather gloves, than my bare knees do - seriously. If your upper body is warm enough - wear layers! - and your extremities are well covered, the rest of you should be fine. An underkilt won't add much if anything to the insulating value of wool.
I've been out in around -15 with a kilt on and I've been numb from the thigh down. Otherwise I could wear a pair of jeans with cotton trousers underneath... which keeps me warm, however I'd rather have a way to wear my kilt and remain warm.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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2nd February 10, 03:49 PM
#13
context
While everyones' advice may be valid, what would make it more valuable is context. If one is going to spend a few minutes outside shoveling the snow or walking briskly to the pub, it is quite different from spending an afternoon/evening exposed to the elements. I'm assuming if Paul is concerned with numb legs, he's talking about spending a decent amount of time outside that may not involve constant movement?
The name of the game when it comes to cold weather clothing is layers. It's always better to be overdressed and have to take off a few items of clothing than to be stuck in sub-zero temperatures and be underdressed. There's nothing wrong with two pairs of hose, an underkilt or kilt johns, and/or thermal boxers if necessary. Frostbite and hypothermia are not cool.
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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2nd February 10, 05:33 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by CMcG
While everyones' advice may be valid, what would make it more valuable is context. If one is going to spend a few minutes outside shoveling the snow or walking briskly to the pub, it is quite different from spending an afternoon/evening exposed to the elements. I'm assuming if Paul is concerned with numb legs, he's talking about spending a decent amount of time outside that may not involve constant movement?
The name of the game when it comes to cold weather clothing is layers. It's always better to be overdressed and have to take off a few items of clothing than to be stuck in sub-zero temperatures and be underdressed. There's nothing wrong with two pairs of hose, an underkilt or kilt johns, and/or thermal boxers if necessary. Frostbite and hypothermia are not cool. 
Thank you!
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'll be out and about, but may not be walking the whole time. We'll be out for at least 12 hours each day and its likely to be extremely cold.
I plan to wear 2 pairs of hose - one thin under a thicker pair as well as plenty of layers on my top half. I'll probably redo 2 t-shirts, thick jumper and waterproof jacket - which worked before, though, my bottom half was considerably colder. A 16oz kilt isnt enough to keep my upper legs from freezing and I've had a few recommendations for an "under-kilt", which will be shorter than my kilt and will not be visible at all.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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2nd February 10, 06:29 PM
#15
Sent an email to j'dez a few days ago. It didn't bounce, but it has no been answered either. Know there were problems right after I bought my first three black cotton underkilts. Was hoping things were fixed up - probably not. If they were out of business would think the website would have died for non-payment or something...
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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2nd February 10, 07:00 PM
#16
whois
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2nd February 10, 08:46 PM
#17
I find my kilt keeps me warm on most cold days.
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2nd February 10, 09:00 PM
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I seriously do not think that wearing an underkilt will make any appreciable difference. Exposed flesh is still exposed flesh, and even thermal boxers won't help much if the exposed flesh below is too cold for comfort. Long underwear and long pants might indeed be a better bet for you in such circumstances ... or just bring some long johns along and use them if necessary, under your kilt. Or ... would the type and level of activity allow you to bring a day plaid or blanket to wrap around you as necessary?
Garrett
"Then help me for to kilt my clais..." Schir David Lindsay, Ane Satyre of the Thrie Estaitis
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2nd February 10, 09:40 PM
#19
I don't wear underkilts for the cold - I wear them to keep my $500 hand sewn wool kilts protected from me. Olde men will understand....
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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3rd February 10, 05:47 PM
#20
I do a lot of biking, so when it's cold out, I just put on my bike shorts..even has a chamois, so you keep Mr. Winky toasty!
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