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16th April 10, 06:23 PM
#31
 Originally Posted by Scotcop
1. Scotcop's name is Luke, feel free to use it.
2. I feel that I would rather have a resignation on my resume/work history when I go to get my new job, than I would a "we had to fire this guy" no matter what they say.
EXACTLY. HEAR, HEAR!!!
I've been fired once, and quit twice in my umpty-ump years in quite a few jobs. I now know that I am no longer a "victim" in any job situation, because it's ME that holds the ultimate trump card... I can walk out when I damn well feel like it.
There are more important things than unempolyment benefits, Luke. There's self respect.
Walk out.
It may take a while to find the next job, but there is ALWAYS another job out there, somewhere.
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17th April 10, 11:37 AM
#32
 Originally Posted by Alan H
It may take a while to find the next job, but there is ALWAYS another job out there, somewhere.
Except in southern Wisconsin where Luke lives. It is TWICE the national average, sitting at about 16%. I grew up in Beloit, which has been hit hardest of all.
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17th April 10, 11:41 AM
#33
At this point Luke, I wouldn't even give them 2 weeks. Cut your losses and move on. They probably wouldn't "need you" for the 2 weeks since they're planning on firing you anyway...not to mention, by the sounds of how they operate, they'll probably still tell folks that they fired you or fire you while you're working out your last 2 weeks.
I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, nor the opportunity!
Good luck with the new job and if it doesn't pan out, there's always a job somewhere if you want it badly enough!
B. 
...And I agree with Tony, not a very "Christian" way to run a bookstore!
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17th April 10, 12:26 PM
#34
 Originally Posted by B. Somm
At this point Luke, I wouldn't even give them 2 weeks. Cut your losses and move on. They probably wouldn't "need you" for the 2 weeks since they're planning on firing you anyway...not to mention, by the sounds of how they operate, they'll probably still tell folks that they fired you or fire you while you're working out your last 2 weeks.
I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, nor the opportunity!
Good luck with the new job and if it doesn't pan out, there's always a job somewhere if you want it badly enough!
B.
...And I agree with Tony, not a very "Christian" way to run a bookstore!
Luke,
Assuming by your screen name "Scotcop", I imagine you are considering going into law enforcement?
If you do decide to resign, two weeks is probably a good idea. Most law enforcement agencies expect their candidates to resolve problems and leave past jobs considerately. Chances are they will probably tell you not to even come in anymore anyway.
No matter how you handle it keep in mind that the PD is going to want to know why you left that job. Think of some good reasons that don't sound too defensive or aggresive when interviewing with the board. Then again maybe you're not going into law enforcement and I'm giving you advice you don't need LOL.
Anyway, hope it works out for the best.
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17th April 10, 05:53 PM
#35
If a boss wants someone new, a prettier face, a more submissive soul, they can cook up any kind of evidence they want and terminate with cause so that they don't have to pay unemployment insurance. My wife got fired long ago for writing a personal email from work. She didn't do it often at all, but they used it as evidence that she wasn't following company policies, and there was no way to prove they were applying the rule selectively.
Turns out there was a run of this sort of thing, and NBC news came to our house to interview her. If you are in the US, I suggest you talk to the unemployment office before you make your decision. There might be a variety of options available to you that could provide some sort of support, should the firing occur.
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17th April 10, 06:40 PM
#36
Luke,
I wish you the best no matter what decision you make. In my life, I have quit, I have b been fired . . . I've ended up at a pretty great job, and at a pretty good place in my life. I had been assigned some "additional duties as assigned" and showed up kilted hoping to be told I couldn't do that part of the work anymore (actually interacting with the public -- not part of my usual gig)... instead of getting me reprimanded, I was told by several levels of higher ups, how classy it was and that I should do it more often. I hope you find the right career that lets you be you and lets your employer utilize all your wonderful skills and your great attitude.
Whatever you decide to do, do it with great dignity so that in the end they are ashamed of how they treated you.
Cheers
Chris
I wish I had something funny or profound to put in a signature.
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17th April 10, 09:58 PM
#37
Work where YOU choose to work.
If you don't feel good when you open the door to walk in to work first thing in the morning, move on.
Wanna have some fun? INTERVIEW KILTED! That solves things up front.
Another "trick" I picked up is if you interview with a company you don't much like for whatever reason, when the interview is over ask to see your application...tell them its to correct or add something. Once you have it in your hand take it with you when you leave. They'll sputter that they need it...but they don't.
And ALWAYS, when you're interviewing, find time to check out their restroom. A company's restroom says a lot about the business.
Good luck. Something good is happening.
And, if you've a law enforcement interest don't overlook the alarm companies too. They always need central station operators, service techs, and installers who can "think like a thief" to outsmart the bad guys.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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18th April 10, 06:05 PM
#38
I definitely would quit before being fired. No matter what the reason, being fired looks HORRIBLE on a resume, or if it comes up in an interview there's no way to explain it in a positive light. If you resign, you have the freedom to say whatever you want as to why you left that job. "I resigned because I felt their management did not meet my standards of integrity" always sounds better than "They terminated me for cause."
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18th April 10, 06:15 PM
#39
California is an "at will employment" state. Either "the employee or the employer can terminate the employment at any time with or without cause".
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18th April 10, 06:56 PM
#40
Luke, just keep in mind that current laws might prohibit an employer to give the details of your separation from the company. Whether it was your choice or theirs might not be legally available.
Check into that before deciding how your resumé might look. You might be able to explain it without going into details.
Last edited by Galician; 19th April 10 at 06:59 AM.
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