Quincy churches rally against Tilted Kilt pub - Resurrected

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1.27th August 12, 12:23 AM #1

Joe I
◦ Quincy churches rally against Tilted Kilt pub
http://www.patriotledger.com/topstor...ilted-Kilt-pub

I feel I've been insulted.

QUINCY — City officials have received an outpouring of indignation from churchgoers ahead of Tuesday’s license rehearing on Tilted Kilt, a pub chain known for waitresses in skimpy outfits.

“I believe that having one of their establishments here would be offensive to the many people of our community who hold to traditional family values ... and indeed to all who subscribe to a Judeo-Christian belief system or worldview,” the Rev. John Culp, pastor of the Fort Square Presbyterian Church, wrote in an Aug. 13 letter to the board.

Several Quincy residents have written strident letters of protest – one said she is “praying approval will not be granted.” The pastor of St. John The Baptist Church, which is near the proposed pub, has urged parishioners at church services to sign petitions and to appear at Tuesday’s hearing.

The license board will reconsider its unanimous July 17 vote to approve the opening of the Tilted Kiltat 227 Parkingway in Quincy Center, previously occupied by Outback Steakhouse.

Board chairman Joseph Shea said a review of postal receipts after the vote showed that the parties notified about the July 17 hearing did not include St. John’s Church, which Shea said was required under a provision of state law.

The law says a business that sells alcohol cannot be licensed within 500 feet of a school or church “unless the local licensing authority determines in writing and after a hearing that the premises are not detrimental to the educational and spiritual activities of said school or church.”

Shea said he expects an extensive deliberation Tuesday before a new vote is taken.

“Some of the issues are hard to get your hands around,” he said. “I’ve told the board members we’ll be there for a while, and we’ll have a full vetting of everything.”

In the most recent church bulletin, St. John’s pastor, the Rev. Richard Cannon, urges a strong turnout of the faithful at the licensing board.

“This is not a business that should be close to St. John’s, nor to any house of worship,” the Rev. Cannon wrote. “For the sake of our parish and our neighborhood we have an obligation to try to stop ‘Titled Kilts’ and its proposed opening. It can only be done with your voice, your signature and your presence at the licensing board hearing.”

Sea Street resident Marianne McCormack wrote to city councilors to say an “Irish Hooters” is not in keeping with the $1.6 billion revitalization of Quincy Center.



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“You are worried about the homeless population in Quincy Center and now could bring in another element of humanity in the person of perverts and sexual deviants,” McCormack wrote, adding that the proposed location is along a gateway to the city.

In a letter to Ward 1 city councilor Margaret Laforest, resident De Larson decried waitresses who will “parade around in tartan bras for the viewing pleasure of the public.”

“Does the city want to send the message to its young women that it is acceptable to objectify women for profit?” she wrote. “Is this an establishment we can all be proud of?”

Tilted Kilt has locations in 24 states. The nearest is in Wethersfield, Conn. The Quincy pub is being proposed by a corporation called Waxy’s Quincy LLC, which is managed by Ashok Patel of Lexington.

Edward Fleming, an attorney for Titled Kilt, could not be reached for comment.

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Jack Encarnacao may be reached at jencarnacao@ledger.com.



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2.27th August 12, 03:17 AM #2

unixken
◦My family is originally from this city. I grew up there. LOL
KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA

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3.27th August 12, 03:37 AM #3

ScotFree
◦ Originally Posted by unixken
My family is originally from this city. I grew up there. LOL
I lived in Dedham and Norwood. Not too far from Quincy. I love the south shore. I can't say everything I'd like to say about this as that would be getting political and no doubt violates one of the board rules or another. But, the gist is, if you don't like the place ... don't go there. Whether you approve or disapprove, let's not kid ourselves into thinking that a few scraps of tartan qualifies as a kilt. Personally I love the meatloaf sandwich.
If you're counting the number of pleats on my kilt,
you're standing too close.

- Me -

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4.27th August 12, 03:55 AM #4

LitTrog
◦ Originally Posted by Joe I
“Some of the issues are hard to get your hands around,” he said. “I’ve told the board members we’ll be there for a while, and we’ll have a full vetting of everything.”
I'm sure they will...
Things like

Originally Posted by Joe I
...waitresses who will “parade around in tartan bras for the viewing pleasure of the public.”




Originally Posted by Joe I
...perverts and sexual deviants...
I will write a letter notifying the board that Denver's TK pub keeps me firmly rooted in Colorado. I'm not going anywhere.
Mister McGoo

A Kilted Lebowski--Taking it easy so you don't have to.

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5.27th August 12, 04:01 AM #5

ScotFree
Originally Posted by LitTrog
I will write a letter notifying the board that Denver's TK pub keeps me firmly rooted in Colorado. I'm not going anywhere.
It might be more helpful if you mentioned that you would consider moving to Quincy if they had a TK pub. Let 'em know it will up the town's appeal.

For the record, its the skirts, not the bras that are tartan. So everything should be OK then, right?
If you're counting the number of pleats on my kilt,
you're standing too close.

- Me -

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6.27th August 12, 04:59 AM #6

LitTrog
Originally Posted by ScotFree
For the record, its the skirts, not the bras that are tartan. So everything should be OK then, right?
As a result of my independently undertaken session of heavy vetting, I discovered that the bras are tartan, also.


And, yeah. Things are quite OK.
Last edited by LitTrog; 27th August 12 at 05:00 AM.
Mister McGoo

A Kilted Lebowski--Taking it easy so you don't have to.

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7.27th August 12, 05:29 AM #7

CDNSushi
◦ Originally Posted by Joe I

I feel I've been insulted.
Why? Do you plan on parading about scantily clad, wearing a tartan bra and not much else?

Neither defending nor condemning this church group here, but seems to be that it has much more to do with women wearing revealing outfits than men wearing a traditional Scottish garment.
Duos habet et bene pendentes!

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8.27th August 12, 06:00 AM #8

LitTrog
◦ Originally Posted by CDNSushi
Why? Do you plan on parading about scantily clad, wearing a tartan bra and not much else?

Neither defending nor condemning this church group here, but seems to be that it has much more to do with women wearing revealing outfits than men wearing a traditional Scottish garment.
It might be the heavy-handed, hyperbolic moralizing that people find offensive--or amusing...
Mister McGoo

A Kilted Lebowski--Taking it easy so you don't have to.

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9.27th August 12, 06:10 AM #9

Tobus
*** to CDNSushi's reply. This issue revolves completely around the issue of scantily-clad women, and has nothing whatsoever to do with tartan, kilts, Scottish culture, or anything like that. The community reaction would be the exact same if it were a Hooters. I can certainly see why folks would have opposing views on this, but I can't see why anyone would feel personally insulted by it.

And BTW, the Tilted Kilt servers do wear tartan bras, usually semi-covered by a white half-shirt that's tied low in front.

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10.27th August 12, 07:27 AM #10

sailortats
I grew up in Lowell and in those days Quincy was nowheres near as uptight as they appear to be in that article. Also, you see girls with a lot less coverage at the beaches these days than you do at a Tilted Kilt or Hooters restaurant. And I do resent the comments repeated in the article,made by someone, that the patrons are perverts and social deviants.
Creag an Sgaraibh