1.Today, 02:13 AM #101

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I want to say, that I posted this thead because 1. kilts are mentioned in a news article, 2. I thought that it would interest the people here. Not to start any controversy. I do think that in a normal conversation, ppl will mention other things. I have been to sites where I have been cussed at, cut down for no reason other than ppl know that fingers cannot go though the web to throttle a person for their rudeness. X markers are not rude! Even when they dissagree they/we are polite.
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2.Today, 04:04 AM #102

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I don't see any trolling here. The thread evolved, touched other topics, and generally remained interesting.

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3.Today, 04:49 AM #103

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Originally Posted by Joe I
ppl will mention other things.
Yes they will and if it is only in passing that is normally fine. When we end up with pages of stuff on these other things then the original intent of the thread can be lost.

If the other things are proving a popular topic of discussion then surely it is better for a new thread that specifically covers them rather than taking over and artificially extending the natural lifespan of the original thread.

This does not happen very often but it gives us poor Mods a lot of work when it does.
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4.Today, 04:58 AM #104

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To go back to the original topic.


Originally Posted by Tobus
But, that's the beauty of the concept of States' Rights. Contrary to popular belief, the so-called "separation of church and state" only applies to our federal government. States (and their political subdivisions) were intended to have this autonomy. It is very rarely supported in the courts, but still...
Point of order:

Article VI, Paragraph 2


This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
Explained: If it's in the Constitution, it binds the States.

This is part of the ORIGINAL Constitution, and can't be stated to not be the intent of the Framers. Amendment I creates the Separation principle. It bound the states to the same principle as soon as it was ratified in 1791. States Rights only covers anything not covered by the Constitution, the US Code, and Ratified Treaties the US is party to per this Article.

Because of this, if the Tilted Kilt corporation does appeal to the courts, the most likely will win. I would suggest the city council to look into the results of the case involving the city of Augusta, GA and Xmart (an adult store). It cost my city/county a lot of money fighting a store on similar grounds to this city's fight with Tilted Kilt, with legal fees, court costs, and penalties the city had to pay. It would be easier to approve the business and let the local populace decide if the business stays open. If it doesn't make money, it will close.
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5.Today, 05:01 AM #105

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Yes they will and if it is only in passing that is normally fine. When we end up with pages of stuff on these other things then the original intent of the thread can be lost.
That's true, but so what? I could understand a desire to keep the original intent of the thread if it's in one of the kilt-specific forums and it's about a particular facet of kilt-wearing. Those threads are important for finding information later and helping others out, and I would agree that they should be kept on-topic for that reason.

But a random conversation in General Discussion? So what if it goes off topic? General Discussion forums are usually for general chit-chat. We are all adults here, and conversations will naturally flow. If it's not a topic that needs to be preserved for posterity and future use, the conversation remains civil, and the person who originated the thread doesn't care, why would we need someone directing the course of our conversation? That can be a bit insulting.
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6.Today, 05:28 AM #106

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Gee! It seems that this thread has been largely hi-jacked by a discussion of thread hi-jacking! Interesting, that! ;)
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7.Today, 05:34 AM #107
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Wow!!!!!The whole thread is a colossal waste of time and energy. Aren't there more important things to discuss?
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8.Today, 05:42 AM #108

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Originally Posted by Frank McGrath
Wow!!!!!The whole thread is a colossal waste of time and energy. Aren't there more important things to discuss?
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9.Today, 05:43 AM #109

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Certainly the last thing we poor Mods want to do is direct a course of conversation. We expect the Rules to do most of that.

But we are on the receiving end of the Rule #12 complaints that flow in and have to deal with each complaint.

That's why this thread has undergone what it has and continues to do.

Miscellaneous is not the same as a "General Discussion" - it still carries specific threads whose titles would end up as nonsensical over time if they became a free for all.