A serious thread about hats with kilts in the USA

[MizzouScotsman]

When you guys are talking about flat caps do you have something like this in mind:

http://www.sdworkwear.co.uk/products...RTING-CAP.html

Or, are you thinking this:

http://www.bencrafthats.com/product....subcname=Capas

I've seen the first kind referred to as flat caps or driving caps. When I was young we called them sports car caps.

The second style, newsboy caps, are sometimes 8/4 caps. There are many old pictures of gentlemen in kilts wearing this type of cap, including Prince Edward, Victoria's son. To my eye these are more traditional than the driving cap.

Both styles could be called flat caps. Maybe I missed, but are we talking one kind, or the other?

When I talk of flat caps, this is what I'm talking about.