Thank you MacLowlife, that is what I like, someone to talk to me. When going on a new adventure, I want to know all about it, the good, the bad and the ugly and I will ask the good the bad and the ugly questions. Because I want to know. It brings to mind the first time I went to Barbados in the Caribbean, the tour guide too us out to the sugar cane field where the women were cutting cane, I left the tour and stayed with those women who let me don the right apparel and I joined them in the field cutting cane. But you know, that was the best part of my 10 day vacation in the Caribbean. My point, is I wish to know from the ground up. Now I can talk to anyone about cane processing, ha ha, that subject doesn't come up very often. But I know. Thank you, I do appreciate you taking time to share with me. Larry