Perusing this thread again, I realized the "lad" Alan was referring to might be me. I felt like the kid who had to be reminded that he was "IT" as the game of tag continued. Side note: at 58 years old I like being called a Lad. I still have a serious interest when the finished design is submitted. I also am recruiting other folks with my own challenge, ie. my post about the Lake Lomond habitat of the wild cat. Look for my 4 yard tartan order when the dust clears.