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    Just some notes ---

    When we measure a kilt ---

    From the hem up to the center of the top straps and buckles is called the Drop.
    From the center of the top straps and buckles up to the top of the waistbanding is called the Rise.

    The total length of a kit is a product of the Drop + the Rise.

    You can measure Drop and Rise or total length but specify which system you are using.

    To measure the total length of fabric used in a kilt is a simple process of measuring the length along the hem from one end of an apron to the other. Remember to measure the apron facings.

    To arrive at a rough estimate of the weight of the fabric used in a kilt take the total length of the fabric measured along the hem and mulitpy that by the total length of the kilt from hem up to the waistbanding. This will give you the total area square inches/cm.

    1 fabric yard of fabric is equal to 2160 square inches/13935.46 square cm.

    13oz kilt wool weighs 13oz per fabric yard and 16oz kilt wool weighs 16oz or 1 pound per fabric yard.
    If the total weight of this kilt is as you say 930 grams, then this is a very light weight fabric. 930 grams = 2.09 lb.

    To find or list the waist size of a kilt you measure at the level of the top straps and buckles from the edge of one apron across the apron, across the pleats and stop at the edge of the opposite apron. You do not include the width of the second apron. This is the waist size of the kilt.
    Unless of course the kilt has been altered. You then measure to where the aprons over lap at the altered location.

    The basic things you will need for you ebay listing are - -

    The Waist circumference at the top buckles
    The Hip circumference at the bottom of the Fell
    The length of the kilt using either Drop + Rise or total length
    The total yardage of fabric in the kilt
    The weight of the fabric used.
    The Tartan and its version.

    OK, I guess I'll be the one to point out what others seem to be too polite to bring up.

    Other than the hallmarks on the three Silver pieces there are no dates on the kilt or any other pieces of the outfit. It is impossible to positively put a date on them. Listing them with the dates you are using is very presumptuous and could be misleading.
    To my eye there is nothing about this kilt that would lead me to a definite date of make. I have seen that same lining and similar buckles on kilts as early as the late 1940's and as late as the late 1970's.
    You already assumed that due to a buckle design you saw somewhere on the internet that this and the fly were military. You now know this to be incorrect.
    Please don't make a similar assumption about this kilt based on the appearance of a lining to something similar in a coat you saw.
    You would actually expect a kilt that was 95 years old, if you use your 1920's date, to have a little more evidence of wear than this.

    Could this be an old kilt? Sure it could. It is also just as possible, and far more likely, that this kilt is from some much later date.

    When listing items please stick to the facts that you can prove. You do no one, especially your reputation, any good by listing dates that you do not have facts to support.
    It is far better to say you don't know than to mislead someone by guessing or wishful thinking.

    Oh, and your statement in your first post "Single waist loop to front (centre)"
    I'm sorry but the pleaty part is the back of the kilt. That is a sporran loop at the center back.
    Last edited by The Wizard of BC; 25th November 15 at 05:21 PM.
    Steve Ashton
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    Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
    I wear the kilt because:
    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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