Good idea Bubba,- how long would they be? Reminds me of the folks in the bike club again. Some of them had just the legs of pants made of a fleece material. They were elasticated top and bottom. Some folks would carry these things with them in their packs and only don them if it got cold. Relating to this thread and another older one on underwear; this morning I was out walking and the "nether regions" of me were a bit cold. Suddenly I come up with an idea! We all want to get rid of trousers and encourage kilts, right? Take an old pair of sweat pants and cut them down to the right length (maybe about boxer length) hem them along the cuffs. If you want, take up a tuck so that they will cling to the thighs and keep out the breezes; now open up a fly and they are done. I rushed home to do this and it was done in 15 minutes. Haven't tried them with the kilt yet. Cheers- Alan