I have to agree with pdcorlis I lost almost 40 pounds with WW, the investment was well worth it. I haven't been counting points for some time now, but still feel great and I am pretty close to my goal weight still (219 goal is 210) It is truly a lifestyle change as you know what you can and can't do. If you can stick to the plan you will be amazed at what you can eat (and drink) and still lose weight.