I agree about the logo.. didn't have a seam ripper, but I'm going to do that. As for the "freedom..." I actually didn't have the nerve to go commando.. Ugggh! The other thing - I don't know how to say this, here it goes. If you don't go commando, and you wear briefs like I do, you kinda get a "pouch" protruding (if your not wearing a sporran - and I don't have one yet!). But when i got home, i whipped them off and let my boy go free, and guess what - my kilt laid better!!!