On a related note, and this may have been covered someplace else, I know Rocky sells his casuals in a "jeans waist" length and a "true waist" length. Now, as I have worm p@nts for a number of years, I am more accustomed to wearing kilts at the "jeans waist". Not a big deal with my UK, or the SWK either, for that matter. I have been thinking about getting the USAK in "true waist", but I sit often at my job, and was wondering if a kilt at "true waist" would feel too tight when sitting.