yes A thtifty as I dont have a lot to spend right now and trying to get rid of some pounds to lower blood presser and fit into my stuff. Cant see paying 2 ,3 ,4 hundred for a kilt then have to get ride of it cause it will not fit. I dont think jerry will have the Irish National in when I go to order so I like the Black Watch my self but vote and tell what you think........kerry