I'd have to look, but I think Townsend gets their shoes from Fugawee...if not, they have a maker that they purchase from. I have bought some stuff from Townsend in the past...I would tell you that they AREN'T the choice of most reenactors!! They make cheap commercial grade cookie cutter goods...some of which aren't at all historically appropriate/accurate. I'm not saying this is the case with the shoes....they may be fine...but what I AM SAYING is that Fugawee makes some of the best researched, historically accurate, quality 18th Century footwear on the market. I'm not advertising for them...but I figured I'd share my observations about 18th century sutlers as I am an avid reenactor and have made purchases from many of them and attended many events over the past few years. The only shoes I've seen rated higher are those made by a canadian company called Flying Canoe Traders...but the feedback I saw was primarily with durability over years of hard field use...but if you're talking about shoes for formal wear, that's not really a factor. OK...I think the horse is dead...not sure if we derailed this thread or not?