AS my nic might suggest I'm a firefighter and Piper began all that in 1990 and while some feel its redundant to have aa forum like this AND a facebook group , I also have a forum and a faceplant group which is dedicated to fire service and public safety bands from all over North America and Europe.., I am not messing with "POLICE" bands cause they have been done but I do include any Police and fire and ems bands specificly this Niche has grown considerably in the last 20 ish years manyfold both here on this side and on that side of the pond..Lets face it , I am a forum freak .. lol anyway feel free to ask ..