Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
<snip> My objection to all ruche ties is that they are quite obviously fake; in my book a pre-tied tie is no tie at all, and a gentleman should avoid fakery at all costs.
On the subject of tying ties, apparently a ruche tie is just an Ascot/cravat tied with a half-Windsor. While many of the images in the OP probably showed pre-tied examples, one could do it oneself. Although I haven't tried, this would lead me to believe that the "scrunchiness" could be adjusted to a more reasonable level.

Or one could just go for a big ol' Windsor knot on a regular tie.

Either one, combined with a spread collar shirt instead of those giant wing collars most of the models are wearing in the OP, this might better compliment the modern cut of the jackets.

Here are some examples to illustrate what I'm suggesting:



This tie is still quite "scrunchy" but I still think it looks better with this type of collar:



I don't like the pattern and colour of this ruche tie but I do like the way it is worn. Less scrunchy:


Thoughts?