Traditional Civilian Highland SHIRTS

[ThistleDown]

Ah yes, and in the days before plastic stays and their little pockets spoiled an entire collar reversing industry there were spring-loaded u-shaped wire things that ran up from one collar point, under your tie and down to the other point. With just the right amount of starch, it made for a perfect collar.

[artificer]

I would personally welcome the popular return of the removable collar. Only in fabric, mind. Not a big fan of cellulose or paper.

[Mike_Oettle]

You guys had me wondering what on earth stays and stay pockets were, until the penny dropped: we call those things collar bones.
We started seeing them in shirts when I was at school, back in the 1960s.
I have never been much of a fan of them, or of button-down collars.
But I am not into reversing collars either.
As for detachable collars, my grandfather caused a scene just before my uncle’s wedding because he wanted to wear a butterfly collar, but he was talked out of it.
When I was a student in a university residence (or dormitory, as they call it in the US), I was required as a freshman to wear butterfly collars for formal dinners. That was the only time in my life that I wore a detachable collar. I think I still have the plastic collar somewhere . . .
Regards,
Mike

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

In ye olden days (that is prior to about 1960) good shirts came with longer tails so that collars (and cuffs) could be replaced if they became frayed or stained, simply by cutting them out of the surplus length of the shirt tail. Because the collar and/or cuffs were cut from the tail, they were always a perfect match for the shirt, regardless of the number of times it had been laundered.

Now, or so it seems, one is lucky if their shirt has enough tail to stay tucked into their trousers or kilt!

[piperdbh]

In ye olden days (that is prior to about 1960) good shirts came with longer tails so that collars (and cuffs) could be replaced if they became frayed or stained, simply by cutting them out of the surplus length of the shirt tail.

So that's why they were so long!

Now, or so it seems, one is lucky if their shirt has enough tail to stay tucked into their trousers or kilt!

...especially if you're long-trunked, like me.

[MacLowlife]

I notice many long-trunked men tend also to be men of substantial middles- in fact, I think pushing the waistband down to accommodate a gut is the number one cause of trunk ( or torso) elongation. The worst problem this causes, even worse than moving the hem of one's trousers or kilt below where it ought to be, is the phenomenon of the middle pulling against the shoulders, as if the gut were in a sling... If you will avoid the Dunlop* effect, you can avoid all sorts of troubles.




*Dun Lopped over your belt.

[Cygnus]

In ye olden days (that is prior to about 1960) good shirts came with longer tails so that collars (and cuffs) could be replaced if they became frayed or stained, simply by cutting them out of the surplus length of the shirt tail. Because the collar and/or cuffs were cut from the tail, they were always a perfect match for the shirt, regardless of the number of times it had been laundered.

Now, or so it seems, one is lucky if their shirt has enough tail to stay tucked into their trousers or kilt!

I've always thought it odd that as the "normal" level at which trousers are worn moves down, the ends of the shirt tails move up. It is really frustrating.

I think it has something to do with the (relatively) new acceptance of un-tucked shirts in casual environments.

[English Bloke]

I've always thought it odd that as the "normal" level at which trousers are worn moves down, the ends of the shirt tails move up. It is really frustrating.

I think it has something to do with the (relatively) new acceptance of un-tucked shirts in casual environments.

And perhaps, that half the world seems obsessed with showing off their underpants!

[MacLowlife]

Yesterday the postman brought me two shirts, clearly stored for a while after laundering many long years ago. They are of the stiff front, button-up-the-back, detached collar variety. I am sure somebody knows where to buy these new, but I doubt I could afford them. One came from Rogers, Peet, of NY & Boston. Anybody know how long they have been gone?

[Galician]

Oh, you brought back a name from the past!

Check this info in Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Peet