First time....getting Marilyned.

**Kintail's Lost Now Found** · 23rd July 11, 12:59 AM

So just so I can check my sanity. Would this bother anyone else? I'm relatively new to kilt wearing, on top of that I'm deployed to Afghanistan, and the unit I'm with allows us to get out of uniform when we're not on duty. So last night I'm talking with my 1SG, basically my boss's boss, and I'm in my USA PV MacRae Hunting Ancient, and a guy comes up and flips up my kilt, deciding he wanted to know what was worn under the kilt. Luckily for me I wasn't regimental, probably the only time since getting my kilt I haven't gone regimental. At first I was shocked. I didn't think the stories were true about some people being so disrespectful towards something so important to me as my kilt already is. I guess the only thing that saved the day was the same "progressive" individual was corrected by another team member when he called it a skirt.

Just wondering has anyone else had their kilt flipped up in public by people, and whats the proper way to respond? I just stared the guy down repeatedly asking him "Really, you just did that? Really? Really?" The guy seemed not to understand the breech of decency.

All in all, I've had good experiences with the exception of that one individual.
Anyways I guess it was just good to vent.

**spglenn** · 23rd July 11, 01:17 AM

Has happened to me numerous times. Usually when I have headed on after an evening out in civilised circumstances while on a night out. On thse occassions I have been like you not going regimental. Usually it is the women who do so drunkenly, even when out in gay bars.

When they looked disappointed that I am wearing underwear, I just say, "Sorry, but it is people like you that make we feel safer going this way. I don't want to get arrested for indecency because of your actions."

It has never happened to me on the street or in a normal setting though only where alcohol is being consumed.

**Chas** · 23rd July 11, 04:06 AM

Maybe it is a UK v US thing, or maybe times have changed, but when I was in the Royal Air Force such actions, while not welcomed would not be un-expected.

We slept in 20 man barrack rooms; showered communally; toileted in almost plain sight. We would know if someone went regimental or not.

You are after all on a military establishment in the middle of an active war zone, not in a public high street and the person concerned was not people, he was a fellow serviceman.

Sorry, but I think that you protest too much.

Regards

Chas

**Pleater** · 23rd July 11, 04:15 AM

hmm - maybe just raise an eyebrow and enquire 'What were you hoping for?'

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**dutchy kilted** · 23rd July 11, 04:30 AM

It has happened to me a few times, usually done by drunk women. I think most of us expect it, unfortunately, since the kilt does attract attention.

I would guess since you are in a really nasty place right now your comrade "flipped you off" more as a stress reliever than anything. I'm sure your 1SG noticed and will deal with it.

Always have a good supply of comments waiting for the next time someone does it.

Stay safe!

**OC Richard** · 23rd July 11, 04:54 AM

It happens all the time to pipers, when marching about in a crowded pub.

Yes the culprits are always drunk women.

Trouble is, when you're playing the pipes you don't have your hands free to fend these people off. Plus they tend to do it from behind so you never see who did it.

But in 35 years of piping never has a man done that to me.

**Kintail's Lost Now Found** · 23rd July 11, 04:58 AM

Thanks for the replies, I guess I'll just have to be on the lookout for drunken women and the service men of the RAF.

**RockyR** · 23rd July 11, 05:19 AM

If it's a man, I usually ask him "do you really want to see my junk that badly? Why would you think that was acceptable?".

Tough situation, especially if you were with your bosses' boss.

**hootstwo** · 23rd July 11, 11:01 AM

Wow. Clearly I'm relatively prudish compared to the masses who have responded thus far. I'd freak on someone that did something that disrespectful to me - drunk lass or not.

**davidlpope** · 23rd July 11, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Chas

Maybe it is a UK v US thing, or maybe times have changed, but when I was in the Royal Air Force such actions, while not welcomed would not be un-expected.

We slept in 20 man barrack rooms; showered communally; toileted in almost plain sight. We would know if someone went regimental or not.

You are after all on a military establishment in the middle of an active war zone, not in a public high street and the person concerned was not people, he was a fellow serviceman.

Sorry, but I think that you protest too much.

Regards

Chas

I'm just surprised they allow you out of your cammies!