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12th August 11, 10:07 AM
#21
Originally Posted by mull
It would be.
Are the ankles taped in this pic with white tape or is that a stripe in the hose? Never saw that before.
Those, I think, are part of the puttees. Usually they are the same colour as the wide part of the puttees; I've never seen them white before.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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12th August 11, 10:47 AM
#22
Very cool - I like the brown leather kilt straps. Thanks for sharing mate!
Cheers,
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15th August 11, 05:17 AM
#23
Originally Posted by Macman
Those, I think, are part of the puttees. Usually they are the same colour as the wide part of the puttees; I've never seen them white before.
The puttees are wool, the colour British call "khaki" and Americans call "olive drab". The straps are herringbone pattern cotton. The ones worn with combat dress had the straps a slightly lighter colour than the puttees themselves (I have an original WWII pair).
But Regimental Police, Pipes & Drums, and the like took to wearing the puttees with more ceremonial orders of dress, with white straps.
In The Black Watch there was actually an order of dress called "Kilts, Boots, and Puttees" which was the exclusive dress of the Regimental Police. These dressy-looking puttees were the colour British call "light khaki" and Americans call "khaki" with white straps.
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15th August 11, 11:02 AM
#24
The white stripes above the ankles are intriguing, although never having worn puttees myself I am at a loss to work out how the white would have been introduced.
Anklets made of khaki webbing were standard issue in the South African Army when I did my service, and were normally worn in their issued colour. The brass buckles and tabs were polished.
But the kilted regiments put takkie-white (as we called it – I believe pipeclay is the usual term) on their anklets.
They were very smart with the kilt, especially when (for me, on only one occasion) also wore white leather belts and bayonet frogs.
OC Richard remarks that khaki (British usage) was identical with olive drab (American).
There was a measure of overlap between the two, but olive drab was (as far as I am aware) somewhat more green.
When I was first in uniform, British-style khaki was very much the norm, and stayed that way for some types of dress, although we did go into brown battle fatigues.
It was also interesting to note that there were two groups of pipers, both (as far as I could see) wearing the same tartan, but one in tammies and the other in black glengarries.
Incidentally, the battledress blouse (which our American brethren call an Ike jacket) was known informally (at least in South Africa) as a bunny jacket. Not sure if that term was used anywhere else.
Regards,
Mike
Last edited by Mike_Oettle; 15th August 11 at 12:04 PM.
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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15th August 11, 11:56 AM
#25
Originally Posted by OC Richard
The puttees are wool, the colour British call "khaki" and Americans call "olive drab". The straps are herringbone pattern cotton. The ones worn with combat dress had the straps a slightly lighter colour than the puttees themselves (I have an original WWII pair).
But Regimental Police, Pipes & Drums, and the like took to wearing the puttees with more ceremonial orders of dress, with white straps.
In The Black Watch there was actually an order of dress called "Kilts, Boots, and Puttees" which was the exclusive dress of the Regimental Police. These dressy-looking puttees were the colour British call "light khaki" and Americans call "khaki" with white straps.
Interesting how names of colors change with time. Around here, the color we now call OD was once called khaki. Now, khaki is about the same color as sand on the beach.
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15th August 11, 12:01 PM
#26
It’s also interesting, kc8ufv, how different nations see (or at least name) colours. The Nazi Sturmabteiling (SA) were known as Braunhemden, which is usually translated into English as Brownshirts, although they actually wore khaki shirts.
It’s an appellation I find odd, since I frequently wear chocolate brown shirts (I am in fact wearing one right now, with a kilt).
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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15th August 11, 07:14 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle
interesting to note that there were two groups of pipers, both wearing the same tartan, but one in tammies and the other in black glengarries.
Yes, that's a plot point in the movie: the old CO allowed the pipers to wear either form of dress during pipes & drums practice. But when the new CO comes upon the pipes & drums practicing, he takes this mixed dress as a serious breach of disipline and instructs a sergeant "take down those men's names".
Some of the pipers are wearing a somewhat more ceremonial version of the regiment's dress, with Glengarries and horsehair sporrans, while others are wearing TOS and HB sporrans.
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