I still think they are best

**Blu (Ontario)** · 7th February 04, 06:26 PM

Graham et al....I really must confess that the rather pragmatic use of the "S" word in my previous post was a paraphrased definition from Websters Dictionary. I'll refrain from quoting it here. You know where I stand :x on the "S" subject and other related "off topic" issues. Trust me when I say I have no intention of raising any such discussions on this wonderfully pristine and focussed board. I regret my loose fingers and apologize for any pleats I may have ruffled.

Please forgive my indiscretion.

Blu

**highlandtide** · 7th February 04, 08:49 PM

No prob Blu! Like I said, we all get along here! "S" word or not!

Chris@southerncelt.com · 8th February 04, 12:24 AM

Ya know why they call it a kilt don't ya? Because anyone who called it a skirt got kilt. lol. Old joke, I felt someone had to post it.

Seriously tho, I too have those misgivings about the casual solid colored kilts. Don't get me wrong, I think they're a great concept in theory. I just have yet to see one that I like the look of. The Utilikilts, being the most popular, look great on the site, but I've seen 3 or 4 people wearing them in person, and they all look funny. Always hanging way below the knee, and giving off a very skirtlike appearance. This may be the fault of the wearer, I don't know. Also, I notice the pleats invert center back. The inversion should be on the right of the under apron. Meeting in the back makes them look even more skirtish.

Thus, I have decided that once I have some extra time on my hands, I will be designing my own casual kilt that meets my own standards. If the end result pleases me, you will all be graced with some wonderful pics.

Irish kilts??? Well bear, I'm quite fond of my family's Donegal County Tartan. It would be my number one choice if I could afford the pure wool fabric. Of course, I'm also fond of the saffron kilt. So I guess an Irish Kilt, is simply, whatever kilt I wear... Or any other Irishman I suppose. hehe. Happy kilting everyone.

**Blu (Ontario)** · 8th February 04, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb

....I know that I make multiple piece garments, and technically they could be considered skirts... tartan or not. etc.
....That distinction in the construction can't be too correct however, as there would be very few authentic kilts coming from Scotland these days! Belt loops and waistbands are seperate pieces in my book.

Say Jimmy...Could you elaborate on this point a bit. I have a Lochcarron kilt made from two pieces of wool sewn end to end. The "joint" was made at the inside edge of a pleat so that it would not show even if the garment were fanned out on the floor. Does this technically make it a "multiple piece kilt and hence a s***t?

**Blu (Ontario)** · 8th February 04, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Chris@cheapkilts.net

....Seriously tho, I too have those misgivings about the casual solid colored kilts. Don't get me wrong, I think they're a great concept in theory. I just have yet to see one that I like the look of. The Utilikilts, being the most popular, look great on the site, but I've seen 3 or 4 people wearing them in person, and they all look funny. Always hanging way below the knee, and giving off a very skirtlike appearance. This may be the fault of the wearer, I don't know. Also, I notice the pleats invert center back. The inversion should be on the right of the under apron. Meeting in the back makes them look even more skirtish....etc.

If a non-traditional design is what it takes to put kilts on backsides, then my hats off to them. If the MIK movement is going to gain any ground at all, there must be some latitude. NTKs(Non Traditional Kilts) have by now proven their appeal to a growing number of men. I might not choose a Utilikilt for myself, but thats a personal choice.

**highlandtide** · 8th February 04, 11:16 AM

Chris-

What do you think of Amerikilts? I like them better than Utilikilts and if I buy another one anytime soon it will most likely be an Amerikilt.

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Chris@southerncelt.com · 8th February 04, 02:57 PM

Hank,
Just checked out the Amerikilt site. Not bad. Pleats in the same direction. Wish there were more of them tho, like narrow the pleat spacing to one inch. I especially like their little clip-on casual sporran. That was an idea I was kicking around on my design. I "mocked-up" and apron several weeks ago with pockets, and hated it. The clippy canvas sporran was my next solution.

**allenlynott** · 10th February 04, 11:36 AM

I, too, feel that I am a traditionalist. I believe that a kilt should be a tartan and worn up high on the waist. I think it's becouse of the way I was introduced to it. It's kind of like the fact that I net Bear as Bear, not Terry. I know he's Terry, but I still call him Bear.
I have kicked the idea of a non traditional kilt around, but I'm still not sure. That is another reason why I do not wear my sport kilt as often as my other two kilts.
Speaking of which, it's time to get into my kilt and take my Black Lab out for training.

Cheers Lads,
Allen

**Graham** · 10th February 04, 05:49 PM

When I first began wearing kilts, I liked taking our dog for a walk 'cos she didn't care that I was wearing a kilt, she never made any comments or jokes.
They are a great companion!

**allenlynott** · 10th February 04, 06:30 PM

Tank is an awsome dog. He is a therapy dog for a few retirement homes and children's hospitols here in the Denver area. This spring or summer, we will branch out to Oklahoma for a family member in a home. My only problem is that he doesn't completely understand kilt etiquit. Watch out for that cold, wet nose.

Cheers,
Allem