Not real kilts?

[Chris@southerncelt.com]

Ok Mac, My question is... Why does it have to be hand sewn in Scotland? There are people, namely myself, who have the same tailoring training. Just because I don't live in Scotland, this makes me not a "real" kiltmaker? All a matter of location?

[Mike n NC]

<with the sound of knuckles cracking in the background>
EhhhHemmm! Perhaps this "gentleman" would like to meet this "lady" in a kilt for a "friendly" discussion?

Sales pitch all the way... Of course MY 1903 HUPMOBILE WITH THE ORIGINAL TIRES will serve you BETTER than these modern vehicles. Why they don't even have a back-up steam tank, they aren't REAL CARS!!

Mike

[Harleyhighlander]

I have a few kilts one is a great kilt, the other a traditional that I had made for me in scotland. it took about 3 months to get. The point I think about real kits V. fake kilts would be the same as whiskeys.
take bourbon to be called bourbon it has to be made in Kentucky. a reason Jack Daniels is called sour mash it is made in Tenn. same ingrediants same process. Just as Scotch has to be made in scotland.
If it looks and feels good to you wear it.

[KiltedBishop]

well said

[David Thornton]

I just hope you are not trying to favorably compare JD to a goud bourbon!

David

[F16WarBird]

That kiltmaker is a moron.

End of story.

[NewKilt]

Originally posted by Berry
In the opinion of one who is completely ignorant of such matters, I reckon that if it looks like a kilt, it's a kilt.

Lots of opinions on this Berry. Some say it has to be a 16 oz wool tank made in Scotland. Others consider Utilikilts, Amerikilts, SportKilts to be kilts. There have been several past threads on this with different viewpoints and definitions expressed. One could even argue that the belted plaid is the only "real" kilt.

My interpretation is rather liberal, and many here would disagree with it, but that's OK.

My interpretation: A skirt-like garment designed for men. The front has a top and bottom apron. The bottom apron fastened to the left side of the waist, and the top apron fastens to the right side. The back of the garment is pleated. The length of the kilt is such that the bottom falls anywhere from one inch above the knee to mid-knee. The kilt originated in Scotland, but today is worn by men in many parts of the world.

My interpretation leaves the door open for a wide variety of materials, and designs - pockets, no pockets, etc. Many who are pure traditionalists will disagree with this, and that's fine. There are members here that are traditionalists, non-traditionalists, and others that have a wide variety of kilt styles. It's all cool, it makes Xmarks an interesting place to be.

Darrell

[SumoKilt]

Guys

I thought a "real" kilt was the double apron front and fully pleated across the back. Any thoughts?

Josh

[yoippari]

Personally I think that if it is shaped like a kilt, and swings like a kilt, it is a kilt, maybe just not a traditional one.

I see it kinda like chainmaille. Original chainmaille was rivited and was a higher aspect ratio than the more modern variation of tighter aspect ratio (inside ring diameter / wire diameter) and butted rings. Butted is easier and you can use materials other than mild steel, but it is not traditional and does not make suitable armor (I tend to make finger rings, and I am making a tie). But it is still maille by definition.

[michael steinrok]

It seems that racism and bigotry exist even in the world of kilt manufacturers all in the name of sales and marketing.Soon as I hear it has to be this or that I just say "see ya". The first kilt I ever made was a complete disaster. I wore it any way. It is amazing what you can do with a lttle hot glue and an imagination.