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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Seago View Post
    Hmm. Remarkably apropos term.
    Yeah, I got a chuckle out of the "Highlandism" reference. "I do not think it means what you think it means"
    I think a lot of folks on this forum could benefit from reading two very enlightening books, 'The Invention of Tradition' and 'Highland Heritage', where that word is used quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
    "I do not think it means what you think it means"
    Inconceivable!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirs View Post
    Inconceivable!!
    Ya beat me to it.
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    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Seago View Post
    Ya beat me to it.
    I am still looking for the six-fingered man

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    Read 'Highland Heritage' and it was amusing and insightful at the same time. I have never attended a Highland Games or Celtic festival since I do not like crowded events. I wear the kilt on formal occaisons about four times a year and the rest of the time I wear one with a T-shirt and crocs around the house and shop.
    When most refer to highland tradition they are thinking of the Victorian Walter Scott romaticized version. My idea of it goes much farther back than that, I remember my grandfather toasting "the wee gentleman in velvet." The last ancestor of mine that left Scotland during the clearances, landed in Canada and worked as a logger. Different branches of the family tree left at different times some before the 45' some after but all were Jacobites. My mother has traced our roots to Flodden and beyond. That is the heritage I speak of, not white hose is a no no, or your kilt is too short. I could care less if a first or second generation Scot say I have no right to wear the kilt or that it should not be worn out of Scotland. I have had a drink or two with Vicount Dunrossil right here in Texas and he was kilted and thought nothing of me being kilted. Scots are terse, blunt, gruff, grumpy, and opinionated. Native Scots may not like this "diaspora" that has spread worldwide. I respect their (Native Scots) opinion and I let it influence my actions only to the point that I try to represent my heritage in what I consider a respectful manner. On other post I may have put forth short terse response, and came back and tried to explain myself better latter on. I PMed those who might have put off by my comments.
    There have been a lot of I and me's in the first paragraph, now what about you? IMHO You should realize that everyone has an opinion, some can present it respectfully and some cannot. IMHO Not everyone who disagrees with you is arguing with you or passing judgement. No one has the right to tell you that you should not wear the kilt. ( Not backtracking here, I never said that but it was interpreted by others that I did) IMHO If you read something you do not think is right ask the poster to explain it. It is a discussion and should be treated like one.

    Texas Jack O'Brian, I felt from your other postings that was not your intention and I apologize for not asking you before I used it as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taygrd View Post
    When most refer to highland tradition they are thinking of the Victorian Walter Scott romaticized version. My idea of it goes much farther back than that, I remember my grandfather toasting "the wee gentleman in velvet." The last ancestor of mine that left Scotland during the clearances, landed in Canada and worked as a logger. Different branches of the family tree left at different times some before the 45' some after but all were Jacobites. My mother has traced our roots to Flodden and beyond. That is the heritage I speak of, not white hose is a no no, or your kilt is too short. I could care less if a first or second generation Scot say I have no right to wear the kilt or that it should not be worn out of Scotland. I have had a drink or two with Vicount Dunrossil right here in Texas and he was kilted and thought nothing of me being kilted. Scots are terse, blunt, gruff, grumpy, and opinionated. Native Scots may not like this "diaspora" that has spread worldwide. I respect their (Native Scots) opinion and I let it influence my actions only to the point that I try to represent my heritage in what I consider a respectful manner.
    Pretty much how I see it.

    I do find pretty much everyone's views valuable, even when I disagree with them (or choose to consciously disregard them), as they help to inform my own. I have an actual and sincere interest in both contemporary Scottish custom and the evolutionary process which has brought it to what it is today.

    When you get right down to it, though, if someone doesn't like my wearing a kilt, or the way I wear a kilt, it really doesn't bother me; sort of rolls off like water off a duck's back.

    This tag line I created for another forum is very much tongue-in-cheek, partly because of its literal truth:

    “I think it's easier to see others as simply human beings like yourself, without being frightened/intolerant of them and their differences (religious, cultural, sexual, whatever), when you know you can cripple or kill them before they have a clue what just happened. It enables you to be more sensitive, closer to being able to embrace all of humanity.”
    "It's all the same to me, war or peace,
    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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