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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Would the Cuaran be right for a mid ranker? Thanks..

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikm View Post
    Would the Cuaran be right for a mid ranker? Thanks..
    Yes. They would actually even be correct for front rank men. Less common than shoes, but worn by all classes in Scottish Highland society.

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Even higher classes? I guess not all would be able to afford handmade brogues.
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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick the DSM View Post
    Even higher classes? I guess not all would be able to afford handmade brogues.
    For the upper level, I suspect it might be more a matter of not wearing your "good shoes" unless you were traveling to a town for some reason.
    "It's all the same to me, war or peace,
    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Seago View Post
    For the upper level, I suspect it might be more a matter of not wearing your "good shoes" unless you were traveling to a town for some reason.
    Right, the cuarans were practical "field" wear: get them wet, dry them out, get them wet again, wear them out, throw them away, make another pair. Not the kind of abuse to subject your pricey "hard" shoes to...!
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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick the DSM View Post
    Also what makes a bonnet from that period different from the modern types? I like the look of Ryan Ross's bonnets, but are they historical in fashion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle View Post
    @ Nick, Bonnets were worn according to personal preference. In most images we see them either simply atop the head or slouched forward in flat cap style. I prefer mine cocked to the side because I find it more comfortable. I am not familiar with Ryan Ross's bonnets but most modern bonnets are sewn rather than knit and synthetically dyed. Bonnets of the period were always hand knit, felted and dyed with indigo or woad. I hand knit and hand dye all of my bonnets. Hope that helps some what!

    Here are some pics of some period correct bonnets I have made. Please forgive my utterly terrible photography skills.



    My bonnets are knit by hand, I assure you...


    As to how a knit bonnet can serve for different periods with minor adjustments:

    Modernish style:



    19th century style (almost the same as above, mind you):


    17th and 18th century style (knit from hand spun, natural colored yarn):

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Right, the cuarans were practical "field" wear: get them wet, dry them out, get them wet again, wear them out, throw them away, make another pair. Not the kind of abuse to subject your pricey "hard" shoes to...!
    Makes perfect sense, thanks guys.

    Ryan,

    Thanks for stepping up, that really helps!
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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    When little kilts came into common usage, plaids were still worn - or 'carried' might be a more accurate term. For example:



    I'm pretty sure such plaids were somewhat larger than today's 'fly plaids'....
    I was thinking about putting an outfit like this togather. Am i right in thinking this is from the 1790s period? To my understanding they were using box pleats at this point. What kind of shoulder plaid would be good for this outfit?

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Some thoughts on the annular-type brooch's adoption, with the understanding that for most of its Scottish history it was considered women's wear. . .From an old thread at SFI:

    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...-Brooch-Theory
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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unNkOoTQaNI

    Crua Chan!!!

    By the left, quick march, crua chan!
    It was seven hundred and forty-five,
    The highland spirit had revived,
    Mac Dougall and Mac Donald there,
    The clans had come from everywhere, singing:

    Fee fi fo fum,
    I smell the blood of a englishman,
    Fee fi fo fum,
    Come on London, here we come.

    We went all the way down south,
    We were frothening at the mouth,
    Coming down to Derby Town,
    We'd beaten everyone around, singing:

    Fee fi fo fum,
    I smell the blood of a englishman,
    Fee fi fo fum,
    Come on London, here we come.

    We ended at Culloden Moor,
    Feeling bad and feeling poor,
    The Redcoats had chased us there,
    There we died and there we stayed, singing:

    Fee fi fo fum, I smell the blood of a scotsman,
    Fee fi fo fum, United Kingdom here we come.

    We the bonnie prince has gone back home,
    He's never gonna come back.

    We'ldo to you at Wembley,
    We'ldo it to you in pubs,
    With the scottish louts larking about.
    Here come your rats, Crua Chan Lad.

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