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22nd October 11, 05:08 AM
#1
Finding my heritage.
Hello all,
My names Daniel. I was given up for adoption when I was only a few weeks old. I recently discovered that my biological mother was a scottish decsendant. Her family name was Peters (her grandfather changed from MacGregor when the came to Australia).
I have met my biological uncle Eoin too, and he says our crest reads " 'S Rioghal Mo Dhream. " How is this pronounced?
I was wondering about my heritage, and what it means. Any information you guys can give will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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22nd October 11, 12:06 PM
#2
Re: Finding my heritage.
Hi dogday,
My understanding that it translates from Scottish Gaelic as "my blood is royal".
Regards
Chas
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22nd October 11, 12:26 PM
#3
Re: Finding my heritage.
 Originally Posted by dogday
Hello all,
My names Daniel. I was given up for adoption when I was only a few weeks old. I recently discovered that my biological mother was a scottish decsendant. Her family name was Peters (her grandfather changed from MacGregor when the came to Australia).
I have met my biological uncle Eoin too, and he says our crest reads " 'S Rioghal Mo Dhream. " How is this pronounced?
I was wondering about my heritage, and what it means. Any information you guys can give will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Thats also Walkers motto as well. At least I know thats the reason why it's also the motto for Walker as Walker was used as a name alias by MacGregor.
In English, it translates to Royal is my Race. As for the pronounciation, Im not so sure.
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22nd October 11, 01:46 PM
#4
Re: Finding my heritage.
Greetings,
The MacGregor Clan Motto 'S Rioghal Mo Dhream (Royal is My Race)...pronunciation..."sreeal mo ghryme" I think the ghryme is close to saying graham but ghrahame...though thats just a guess.
All the best,
Graham
Another note: MacGregor name was outlawed during the 16th century, many took the names of their friends and neighbours, there is a summery list somewhere with names adopted by MacGregors, the Walkers are among the listed names and Peters...I think as Peters is a listed sept of MacGregor, that maybe the influence for the name change.
Here is a link : http://www.clangregor.org/macgregor/septs.html
Last edited by Graham A. Robieson; 22nd October 11 at 02:07 PM.
Reason: Revision + Adding more info.
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22nd October 11, 02:42 PM
#5
Re: Finding my heritage.
 Originally Posted by Graham A. Robieson
Greetings,
The MacGregor Clan Motto 'S Rioghal Mo Dhream (Royal is My Race)...pronunciation..."sreeal mo ghryme" I think the ghryme is close to saying graham but ghrahame...though thats just a guess.
All the best,
Graham
Another note: MacGregor name was outlawed during the 16th century, many took the names of their friends and neighbours, there is a summery list somewhere with names adopted by MacGregors, the Walkers are among the listed names and Peters...I think as Peters is a listed sept of MacGregor, that maybe the influence for the name change.
Here is a link : http://www.clangregor.org/macgregor/septs.html
This wouldnt, however, guarantee that my Walker ancestor from Scotland (circa...mid 1800s) was a MacGregor down the line though, would it?
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22nd October 11, 03:00 PM
#6
Re: Finding my heritage.
Greetings,
Nothing is a guarantee regarding surnames, not going into septs, as stating with Peters as a possible motive for Daniels great-grandfathers change from MacGregor to Peters...I was simply stating as you said that Walker also carry the MacGregor Clan Motto...Walker is a possiblity, not a certainty.
All the best,
Graham
Last edited by Graham A. Robieson; 22nd October 11 at 03:47 PM.
Reason: Spelling
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24th October 11, 02:02 PM
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Re: Finding my heritage.
MacGregor name was outlawed during the 16th century
17th century, actually. It was after the Battle of Glen Fruin, which was in 1603.
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24th October 11, 02:53 PM
#8
Re: Finding my heritage.
Greetings,
The Colquhouns and The Battle of Glenfruin:
During a feud with the Clan Colquhoun in 1603 (could it possibly have been about... uhm... say... land?), Chieftain Alexander MacGregor fought in the celebrated Battle of Glenfruin (near Loch Lomond). When the tide of battle shifted to the MacGregors, the Colquhouns turned and fled. Some of the MacGregors gave pursuit, and a number of Colquhouns were killed. The widows and mothers laid the bloody shirts of their slain kinsmen in front of King James VI and complained about the barbarity of the MacGregors. This—along with other circumstances—led to the prosecution of the clan, with the Laird of MacGregor and many of his followers being executed in 1604.
Thanks Tobus for the clarification on the date, above is an extract from MacGregor clan history.
All the best,
Graham
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25th October 11, 05:57 AM
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