Off-season training

[Alan H]

Randy Barnes was a beast.

That's for sure, both in raw strength and technique. Another 70's era thrower, Ulf Timmerman had more than one documented 70+ foot STANDING throw. Now, THAT is bluidy strong..

Personally, I'll never be a rotational stones thrower because I simply don't have the time to get it "right". It's an investment question, really.

The payoff is big, if you can put in the work to get the rotational throw figured out. For me, I figure there are eight freakin' events to figure out, and for me to put the time into that one such that I actually started to see the big payoff....don't think it's worth it.

A bad or ho-hum rotational throw won't go as far as a well done standing throw, and the standing throw is SO much easier to get right. A good glide is easier than a rotational stone throw, but again, a so-so glide won't go as far as a standing throw that you really HIT. I could try a shuffle, but honestly, I find that if I just get into the power position in a standing throw, and SLAM it, the thing goes consistantly farther. The one time in 20+ that I really stick a glide, I can beat my best standing throw, but will I do that on Game Day? How much work do I have to put in, to get that extra 6 inches, *consistantly*?

I will work on a simple glide again this winter and see how it goes, but I bet dollars to doughnuts that next year I'll be standing again, and gunning for a 33 foot PR. 33 feet is by no means "great" in the 50-59's but it's respectable.

[eclarkhb]

That's for sure, both in raw strength and technique. Another 70's era thrower, Ulf Timmerman had more than one documented 70+ foot STANDING throw. Now, THAT is bluidy strong..

Personally, I'll never be a rotational stones thrower because I simply don't have the time to get it "right". It's an investment question, really.

The payoff is big, if you can put in the work to get the rotational throw figured out. For me, I figure there are eight freakin' events to figure out, and for me to put the time into that one such that I actually started to see the big payoff....don't think it's worth it.

A bad or ho-hum rotational throw won't go as far as a well done standing throw, and the standing throw is SO much easier to get right. A good glide is easier than a rotational stone throw, but again, a so-so glide won't go as far as a standing throw that you really HIT. I could try a shuffle, but honestly, I find that if I just get into the power position in a standing throw, and SLAM it, the thing goes consistantly farther. The one time in 20+ that I really stick a glide, I can beat my best standing throw, but will I do that on Game Day? How much work do I have to put in, to get that extra 6 inches, *consistantly*?

I will work on a simple glide again this winter and see how it goes, but I bet dollars to doughnuts that next year I'll be standing again, and gunning for a 33 foot PR. 33 feet is by no means "great" in the 50-59's but it's respectable.

Those are all good points. For me, I think I have a bit of a head start on the rotational technique since I used this for shot put in high school. But that was 20 years ago & I'm still a beginner. I go buy a 12-lb shot, because I'd like to see if I can throw it farther today than I could as a senior in high school.

With open stone, my max-effort standing throws are around 33-34', and when I spin I'm getting 36-38'. so I'm getting something from it, but I feel like I should be able to throw it farther if I can nail down the technique.

[Alan H]

Those are all good points. For me, I think I have a bit of a head start on the rotational technique since I used this for shot put in high school. But that was 20 years ago & I'm still a beginner. I go buy a 12-lb shot, because I'd like to see if I can throw it farther today than I could as a senior in high school.

With open stone, my max-effort standing throws are around 33-34', and when I spin I'm getting 36-38'. so I'm getting something from it, but I feel like I should be able to throw it farther if I can nail down the technique.

That's interesting, our standing throws are not that different, you have about 2 feet on me, but my rotational throws are more like 28 (discus thrower, here). I'm pretty fair old dude discus thrower, but it just never translated to shot.

If you have a head start from High School, then that's good. I saw the video, sure there are points you can work on, but you have the basics about right. You'll be out at 40 in a season, maybe a season and a half.