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6th April 04, 06:03 AM
#11
Your waist may be large, but your hips are proportionate, which should make for a nice fit with a traditional kilt. Granted this may be something to work with a kilt-maker within driving distance on rather than over internet.
The thing about the taditional modern kilts is that the area from your hips to your natural waist acts as a girdle, so it doesn't tend to go sliding all over the place.
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7th April 04, 08:29 AM
#12
Re: Traditional 8-Yard Kilting With a Gut
 Originally Posted by Martin
My advice for what it's worth rufus, is to avoid a kilt that sits on your hips, this will accentuate any gut you have and the kilt will not hang properly.
I measured around the largest part of my waist (40") and ordered a kilt to suit. I find the kilt fits perfectly, stays put with the help of a belt and helps to disguise a larger waistline. I look slimmer in a kilt than in trousers.
Another plus for this wonderful garment!
Thanks for the advice Martin, especially about the kilt sitting on the hips and accentuating the gut - that's all I need. 
Rufus
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7th April 04, 08:41 AM
#13
 Originally Posted by Chris@cheapkilts.net
Your waist may be large, but your hips are proportionate, which should make for a nice fit with a traditional kilt. Granted this may be something to work with a kilt-maker within driving distance on rather than over internet.
The thing about the taditional modern kilts is that the area from your hips to your natural waist acts as a girdle, so it doesn't tend to go sliding all over the place.
Chris,
I'd love to work with a local kilt maker, but unfortunately the closest thing that I can find is a rental/sales shop 2 hours away, and he imports his kilts from Scotland. (He told me because of the exchange rate, he'd have to charge me ~$800!!)He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"
He was nice enough to measure me though. Told me that he'd prefer I got a kilt that fit, even if I didn't get it from him.
Rufus
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7th April 04, 01:51 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by Rufus
He was nice enough to measure me though. Told me that he'd prefer I got a kilt that fit, even if I didn't get it from him.
Rufus
NICE!!!!!
That takes 90% of the hassle out of the kilt-buying experience! I say that for you AND the kiltmaker!
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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8th April 04, 09:47 PM
#15
He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"
Considering that I'm roughly 37.5% Welsh, he doesn't deserve your money.
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9th April 04, 02:15 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Rufus
...He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"...Rufus
That comment indicates that the guy is either arrogant, ignorant, of full of hot air. (maybe a bit of all three.)
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9th April 04, 03:15 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
 Originally Posted by Rufus
...He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"...Rufus
That comment indicates that the guy is either arrogant, ignorant, of full of hot air. (maybe a bit of all three.)
As Welsh kilts are made in exactly the same way as any other traditional kilts, the only difference is the Welsh Tartan. I therefore suspect that what he really meant was that Welsh Tartans aren't real tartans. Even if he did mean that he is wrong. Many people (including many Scots) believe that for a tartan to be real, it has to be a Clan Tartan, but this is incorrect as tartans existed before the first Clan Tartan was produced.
The earliest were District Tartans, probably because if you happened to live in a particular district, you wore the 'district' tartan that the local weaver produced.
Since then there have been Family Tartans, Corporate Tartans, Comemorative Tartans etc., so those who are snobbish about what constitutes a true tartan are merely showing their ignorance.
Rob
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9th April 04, 07:03 AM
#18
The guy that made the comment about Welsh cilts is an older gentleman that moved to the States from Scotland about 10 years ago. He was definitely opinionated. He also told me that a kilt "made in anything less than 16oz tartan was good for nothing but a woman's skirt." I can't imagine what he thinks of the casual kilts that fit down low on the hips.
When he said that Welsh kilts weren't real kilts, he meant because they weren't from Scotland, and thus must be impostors.
Rob - I definitely detected tartan snobbery from him. He's of the "Clan tartans are the only good tartans" mindset.
Rufus
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9th April 04, 07:04 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by Rob
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
 Originally Posted by Rufus
...He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"...Rufus
That comment indicates that the guy is either arrogant, ignorant, of full of hot air. (maybe a bit of all three.)
As Welsh kilts are made in exactly the same way as any other traditional kilts, the only difference is the Welsh Tartan. I therefore suspect that what he really meant was that Welsh Tartans aren't real tartans. Even if he did mean that he is wrong. Many people (including many Scots) believe that for a tartan to be real, it has to be a Clan Tartan, but this is incorrect as tartans existed before the first Clan Tartan was produced.
The earliest were District Tartans, probably because if you happened to live in a particular district, you wore the 'district' tartan that the local weaver produced.
Since then there have been Family Tartans, Corporate Tartans, Comemorative Tartans etc., so those who are snobbish about what constitutes a true tartan are merely showing their ignorance.
Rob
Maybe somebody will explain it to him one of these days.... then again maybe not and he'll die never knowing the truth. Ignorance is bliss...aint it?
blu
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9th April 04, 07:14 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by Rufus
He also told me that a kilt "made in anything less than 16oz tartan was good for nothing but a woman's skirt."Rufus
Oh dear, so my 15oz tartan kilt is really a woman's skirt. I will have to throw it out immediately, and sue my kiltmaker for selling me a skirt.
Rob
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